[Arisaema-l] Activity of the AEG, is this group in danger?

[Néstor D. Groel]

Eric, sorry for the delay, I was in a not internet zone for last days. I
understand the thing about a person that act as a "motor". it's always the
same in every group that I had participate. If you think I can be of any
use to you, just let me know!.

By the way, exist any seed this year? I plan to expand my greenhouse soon
and would be marvelous start again with arisaema seeds. I have some other
aroids but all of them are aquatic plants.

THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR EFFORT

Néstor D. Groel
Lórien Sistemas


El mar, 12 abr 2022 a las 4:30, Gouda, E.J. (Eric) (<e.j.gouda at uu.nl>)
escribió:

>
> Op 7-4-2022 om 06:59 schreef Néstor D. Groel via Arisaema-L:
>
> Hello everyone, my name it's Néstor Groel and I'm living in Patagonia
> Argentina.
>
> First of all I apologize to everyone for not participating. As soon as I
> started in this group I had an accident and my youngest son died.  That
> winter, between sorrow and pain, I neglected my greenhouse and the cold
> destroyed a large part of my plant collection. Orchids, carnivorous,
> aquatic, ferns and of course my young arisaemas. None of them were
> important at that time. Last years I was retired from groups and other
> activities. By the time I started to get slightly out of the deepest well
> of my life, the pandemic arrived and here we are.
>
> Hi Néstor,
>
> Very sorry to hear about your son, that rips your world apart.
>
>
> I am old enough to have seen and used all types of groups on the internet.
> I prefer these types of groups by email (perhaps simple nostalgia?) but I
> recognize that they are dying.
>
> I don't like Facebook, I hardly ever log in, but it's true that it works
> for a lot of people. I am in several WhatsApp and Telegram groups that work
> very well if there are less than one hundred members or so.
>
> WEB forums are also very useful, I use them daily for fishkeeping,
> microscopy and electronics. We can join perfectly to an existing one (that
> any of you recommend) since we will surely not be a burden for them.
>
> But if you prefer, I can create a web forum and a web page specifically
> for us, for the group, with a place for photos, announcements or whatever
> you want. I have no problem, if you give me a few days, I will do it. The
> site https://sadelplata.org was created a lot of years ago, and will be
> updated in next months with new articles and activities, but it can work as
> a sample. A website specific with species taxonomy treatment and general
> information, with photos and all articles on web pages have automatically
> created their corresponding PDF version. It has a web forum attached for
> members or the general public. Using something pre-existing is faster and
> simpler, but if you prefer to have our own site we can build it together,
> you would provide the information and I'll convert it to the web's format.
>
> Thanks Néstor, but we do have our own domain and website:
> https://arisaema-l.nl/ and https://aroids.nl/ and I can easily include a
> forum my self (I run an owned Linux server), but I do not think that will
> make a difference. We even have our own Gallery in FloraPix, but not much
> activity. This will not change with a forum. What could help is a person
> that is the motor in these things, like Ray was. I know mailman is not very
> user friendly mail service and have bad archiving, but could work with a
> person like that, even when old fashioned.
>
> All the best,
>
> Eric
>
>
> I'm new to arisaema but not for other plants. I can't help with seeds or
> knowledge about arisaema, but can contribute with a web site.
>
> I want to contribute to something to avoid this group extinction. I would
> like to thank you for the effort you have made for years, tell me how I can
> help. I will collaborate in whatever is needed.
> Thanks to all, sorry for my bad english.
>
>
>
> Néstor D. Groel
> Lórien Sistemas
>
>
> El mié, 6 abr 2022 a las 14:22, Peter Taggart via Arisaema-L (<
> arisaema-l at lists.science.uu.nl>) escribió:
>
>> Dear Eric, Christopher, and other AEG members.
>> I have been unable to keep up with plant interests over the past few
>> years, and am nominally a member of many plant groups on Facebook. I have
>> not taken part in them for several years and will not start again, because
>> of the blatant censorship of covid information, and vaccine harms that has
>> been carried out on Facebook, and other platforms.  They also perform a
>> great deal of nudging of various other agendas, basically good for
>> governments and large multinational companies, but very destructive to
>> society.
>> One forum which I used to frequent, and hope to do so again, is the
>> Scottish Rock Garden Club Forum, which has sections and threads on many
>> plant groups. It is searchable, and indexed. I am sure that the AEG could
>> create a niche in a corner of that forum, with the Scottish Rock Garden
>> Club's blessings.
>>
>> https://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=cfca3d48040d5a23ef4883aca506034d&action=forum
>>
>> https://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=18367.msg419261#msg419261
>>
>> I am now rescuing the remains of my bulb collection, after 10 years of
>> neglect, and plan to expand it including the growing of more aroids.
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Peter.
>>
>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022, 12:45 Christopher Gussman via Arisaema-L, <
>> arisaema-l at lists.science.uu.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> A Facebook group may be the way to go, as photos can be easily included
>>> with questions and discussions. There is already one Arisaema Facebook
>>> group I bet many members here are already a part of. In some ways I miss
>>> the old forums and list serves but I think they are becoming fossils in the
>>> cyber museum.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 6, 2022, at 5:10 AM, Gouda, E.J. (Eric) via Arisaema-L <
>>> arisaema-l at lists.science.uu.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Dear AEG members,
>>>
>>> It seems that the only activity left in our group is the Seed Exchange,
>>> which is maybe because of the use of our old fashioned email discussion
>>> list. From the Archives we can learn that there are little or no
>>> discussions beside the SeedEx messages. We have our own FloraPix Gallery
>>> that can be used to post pictures, but also discuss plants. It is really a
>>> pity that it has not been used much over the last years.
>>>
>>> My question is, should we switch to for example Facebook with our group
>>> to activate and modernize our group? Or are we becoming a fossil group?
>>> Unfortunately Ray Stilwell became too old and left the group in 2007, he
>>> was the motor of the group and was not replaced. I was involved in 1997 or
>>> maybe even before and created the email list and started organizing the
>>> website and SeedEx, which I run for over 20 years now.
>>>
>>> If we want to continue the group, I think we need somebody like Ray who
>>> keeps the group enthusiastic and going (live discussions etc.). I could be
>>> involved for the website, seed list and gallery if needed, but will be not
>>> much longer in current position at the Botanic Garden (1.5 year max, have
>>> reached the age of 65 some time ago).
>>>
>>> It is up to you, lets start discuss our future now, before it is too
>>> late.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> All the best, / Met vriendelijke groet,
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> --
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> All the best, / Met vriendelijke groet,
> Eric
>
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