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Neil? Did you ever talk to Carolyn Fitzgerald herself? I seem to be =
facing the same situation that you had. They've apparently changed the =
requirements for importation and cannot seem to understand that the =
import permit governing plants and plant parts covers seed also.. The =
APHIS office's right hand doesn't know whatr the left hand does. And =
many people there seem to think in either/or terms rather than =
both/and, or can't manage the idea that the basic permit covers seed =
even though it says so and specifies.
I'm almost ready to give up, even though I've had a permit since 1958. =
But I hate to be flummoxed by something like this and give up. .. =
However, incompetence and bureaucratized ignorance is nearly impossible ==
to overcome.
----- Original Message -----
From: Neil jorgensen
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: US permit
I hope you all have better luck with the USDA than I did.
Three years ago, I drove 40 miles each way to the nearest USDA office =
to apply for importation permit. Told the person I talked to that I =
just wanted to import a few seeds to for my own use
Sent in the application and received, I think, two pages of the yellow ==
and green permits, some of which I sent off to Eric.
Received my seeds close to two months after Eric mailed them, after =
several telephone calls both to Carolyn Fitzgerald and to the plant =
quarantine office at the P.O.E.
Last year I tried again and, after waiting for quite awhile, was =
informed that I in fact had been sent the wrong type of permit and that =
I had to apply all over again, while in the meantime, we were well into =
spring, and my seed shipment was gathering dust at the P.O.E.
So by that time I decided that life was too short, and maybe there =
were less complicated genera to specialize in.
n
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<DIV>Neil? Did you ever talk to Carolyn Fitzgerald herself? =
I seem
to be facing the same situation that you had. They've apparently =
changed
the requirements for importation and cannot seem to understand that the =
import
permit governing plants and plant parts covers seed also.. The APHIS =
office's
right hand doesn't know whatr the left hand does. And many people
there seem to think in either/or terms rather than both/and, =
or can't
manage the idea that the basic permit covers seed even though it says so ==
and
specifies.<BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I'm almost ready to give up, even though I've had a permit since =
1958. But
I hate to be flummoxed by something like this and give up. =
..
However, incompetence and bureaucratized ignorance is nearly =
impossible to
overcome.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV> </DIV>
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<A title=njorgen at COMCAST.NET =
href="mailto:njorgen at COMCAST.NET">Neil
jorgensen</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 16, 2009 =
1:58
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: US permit</DIV>
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<P><BR>I hope you all have better luck with the USDA than =
I did. </P>
<P> </P>
<P>Three years ago, I drove 40 miles each way to the nearest USDA =
office
to apply for importation permit. Told the person I talked =
to that I
just wanted to import a few seeds to for my own use</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Sent in the application and received, I think, two pages of =
the yellow
and green permits, some of which I sent off to Eric.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Received my seeds close to two months after Eric mailed =
them, after
several telephone calls both to Carolyn Fitzgerald and to =
the plant
quarantine office at the P.O.E.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Last year I tried again and, after waiting for quite =
awhile, was
informed that I in fact had been sent the wrong type of ==
permit
and that I had to apply all over again, while in the meantime, we were ==
well
into spring, and my seed shipment was gathering dust at the P.O.E.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>So by that time I decided that life was too short, and maybe there =
were
less complicated genera to specialize in. </P>
<P> </P>
<P> </P>
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