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Subject: Re: Hardiness List - was New member
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Adam, etal:

The aroid hardiness list is one that we compiled.  It was never our
intent to indicate what plants would live in what conditions, but only
to indicate the winter hardiness of the plant under ideal conditions.
If you don't start with this data, all other growing conditions are
irrelevant.  You can find the list posted at
http://www.aroid.org/horticulture/hardy.php   We welcome additions or
changes, but only where we can get accurate temperature data without the
benefit of snow cover.

Tony Avent
Plant Delights Nursery @
Juniper Level Botanic Garden
9241 Sauls Road
Raleigh, North Carolina  27603  USA
Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F
Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F
USDA Hardiness Zone 7b
email tony at plantdelights.com
website  http://www.plantdelights.com
phone 919 772-4794
fax  919 772-4752
"I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least th=ree times" - Avent



Adam Fikso wrote:
> Exactly my point.  And the reasons for revising the list--growing
> conditions is needed.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>     *From:* Erick Adams <mailto:rogthegoat at HOTMAIL.COM>
>     *To:* ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL <mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL>
>     *Sent:* Friday, March 13, 2009 3:38 PM
>     *Subject:* Hardiness List - was New member
>
>
>     A discussion about what people grow where & how sounds good, but a
>     simple list
>     of average minimum temperature tolerances doesn't begin to cover
>     all the permutations involved.
>
>     An example would be the species from the Himalayas.  Several of
>     them are technically winter hardy
>     for USDA zones 5 or 6, but I find them harder to grow outdoors
>     than equally cold tolerant Japanese species.
>     The difference: I have dry summers & wet winters with little or no
>     snow cover, basically the opposite
>     conditions the Himalayan species enjoy.
>
>     About 15 years ago I bought a Trochodendron aralioides seedling.
>     The common Hardiness rating at the time was zone 8.
>     It's still alive and happy here in zone 6A and now I believe it's
>     listed as zone 5.  A few years back we had about three
>     years where I could overwinter typically zone 7 plants outdoors
>     without any additional contrivances.  Then things went
>     back to normal and they all croaked.  So I don't put too much
>     stock in the USDA zones.
>
>     -erick
>
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