No subject
Arisaema Enthusiast Group (AEG) Discussion List (and other=
Arisaema Enthusiast Group (AEG) Discussion List (and other=
Sun Jan 11 18:53:38 CET 2009
hardy Aroids)" <ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL> Aroids)" <ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL>
Sender: "Arisaema Enthusiast Group (AEG) Discussion List (and other=
From: Gerard Olma <OLMZZZ at AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Arisaema hybriciliatum
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=3D"-----------------------------1231696418"
-------------------------------1231696418
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I received my copy of Thompson & Morgan Seed Catalog 2009 on January 10.
On page 62, Arisaema hybriciliatum is now listed as ciliatium. I wonder i=f
some one brought it to their attention or they did research. It is possib=le as
Adam alluded to that they were open pollinated then, now they keep the
pollination "pure" by hand/individual plant so they know the seed produce=d is
"pure ciliatum". Just a thought...
In a message dated 1/10/2009 3:07:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
adam14113 at AMERITECH.NET writes:
My best guess is that it's an open-pollinated ciliatum which is hinted a=t in
the name. and because it was not a protected cross they note the hybrid
possibility in the name ;;i.e., hybri-ciliatum
----- Original Message -----
From: _Gerard Olma_ (mailto:OLMZZZ at AOL.COM)
To: _ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL_ (mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL)
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: Arisaema hybriciliatum
Ray & others ~
I have ordered the seeds from T & M and grew them to flowering stage - i=t
appears to be Arisaema ciliatum. The Inflorescence looks just like the o=ne
pictured in Gusman's The Genus Arisaema Volume I on page 305. They have=stolons
that is indicative of A. ciliatum.
Gerry Olma, Hamburg, NY Zone 6
In a message dated 1/10/2009 11:30:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
GRSJr at WORLDNET.ATT.NET writes:
I see that Thompson & Morgan and several other seed suppliers and nurser=ies
are advertising Arisaema hybriciliatum. I don't find this species in the
Gusman's book and I suspect it's just an advertising gimmick to unload
seeds/plants of various species.
Anyone know more about this?
Ray
========================================================================
Search the Arisaema-L archives & subscription options -
http://listserv.surfnet.nl/archives/Arisaema-l.html
Arisaema-L HOME & GALLERY: http://florapix.nl/Arisaema-L
For help with this list, send an e-mail to the listowners at:
Arisaema-L-request at nic.surfnet.nl
========================================================================
____________________________________
A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. _See yours in just 2 easy steps!_
(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir==http://ww
w.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Dece=mailfooterN
O62)
========================================================================
Search the Arisaema-L archives & subscription options -
http://listserv.surfnet.nl/archives/Arisaema-l.html
Arisaema-L HOME & GALLERY: http://florapix.nl/Arisaema-L
For help with this list, send an e-mail to the listowners at:
Arisaema-L-request at nic.surfnet.nl
========================================================================
========================================================================
Search the Arisaema-L archives & subscription options -
http://listserv.surfnet.nl/archives/Arisaema-l.html
Arisaema-L HOME & GALLERY: http://florapix.nl/Arisaema-L
For help with this list, send an e-mail to the listowners at:
Arisaema-L-request at nic.surfnet.nl
========================================================================
**************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 ea=sy
steps!
(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir==http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62=%26bcd=De
cemailfooterNO62)
========================================================================
Search the Arisaema-L archives & subscription options -
http://listserv.surfnet.nl/archives/Arisaema-l.html
Arisaema-L HOME & GALLERY: http://florapix.nl/Arisaema-L
For help with this list, send an e-mail to the listowners at:
Arisaema-L-request at nic.surfnet.nl
========================================================================
-------------------------------1231696418
Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=US-=ASCII">
<META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.3132" name=GENERATOR></HEAD>
<BODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-F=AMILY: =
Arial"
bottomMargin=7 leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 rightMargin=7><FO=NT id=rol=
e_document
face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>
<DIV>I received my copy of Thompson & Morgan Seed Catalog 2009 on Jan=uar=
y
10.</DIV>
<DIV>On page 62, Arisaema hybriciliatum is now listed as ciliatium. I won=der=
if
some one brought it to their attention or they did research. It is possib=le =
as
Adam alluded to that they were open pollinated then, now they keep the=
pollination "pure" by hand/individual plant so they know the seed produce=d i=
s
"pure ciliatum". Just a thought...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>In a message dated 1/10/2009 3:07:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=2=0
adam14113 at AMERITECH.NET writes:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px sol=id"><=
FONT
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000=000 size=
=2>
<DIV><FONT size=3>My best guess is that it's an open-pollinated cil=iatum=
which
is hinted at in the name. and because it was not a protected cross they=no=
te
the hybrid possibility in the name ;;i.e.,
hybri-ciliatum </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BOR=DER-L=
EFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">=<B>Fr=
om:</B>
<A title=mailto:OLMZZZ at AOL.COM href="mailto:OLMZZZ at AOL.COM">G=erard O=
lma</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
href="mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL">ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL=</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 10, 09 =
1:13
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Arisaema
hybriciliatum</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>
<DIV>Ray & others ~</DIV>
<DIV>I have ordered the seeds from T & M and grew them =to
flowering stage - it appears to be Arisaema
ciliatum. The Inflorescence looks just like the one picture=d i=
n
Gusman's <U>The Genus Arisaema</U> Volume I on page 305. They
have stolons that is indicative of A. ciliatum.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Gerry Olma, Hamburg, NY Zone 6</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>In a message dated 1/10/2009 11:30:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time=,
GRSJr at WORLDNET.ATT.NET writes:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px=soli=
d"><FONT
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color==#000000
size=2><FONT size=3>I see that Thompson & Morgan and se=veral o=
ther
seed suppliers and nurseries are advertising</FONT> <FONT size==3>Ari=
saema
<I>hybriciliatum. </I>I don't find this species in the Gusman's boo=k a=
nd I
suspect it's just an advertising gimmick to unload seeds/plants of =var=
ious
species.<BR><BR>Anyone know more about
this?<BR><BR>Ray<BR><BR></FONT><BR>=============
===========================
===========================
=========<BR>Search
the Arisaema-L archives & subscription options
-<BR>http://listserv.surfnet.nl/archives/Arisaema-l.html<BR><BR>Ari=sae=
ma-L
HOME & GALLERY: http://florapix.nl/Arisaema-L<BR><BR>For help w=ith=
this list, send an e-mail to the listowners
at:<BR>Arisaema-L-request at nic.surfnet.nl<BR>==========
===========================
===========================
============<BR></FONT></=BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></FONT><BR=
><BR><BR>
<DIV class=aol_ad_footer id=9e09eccc4adfe28e53e1da20ac0d6649>=<FONT
style="FONT: 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF; COLOR: black">
<HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px">
<B>A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. <A
title=http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x12010287=47/ao=
l?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072=&hm=
pgID=62&bcd=DecemailfooterNO62
href="http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x12010287=47/ao=
l?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072=%26hmpg=
ID=62%26bcd=DecemailfooterNO62">See
yours in just 2 easy
steps!</A></B></FONT></DIV>================
===========================
===========================
======<BR>Search
the Arisaema-L archives & subscription options
-<BR>http://listserv.surfnet.nl/archives/Arisaema-l.html<BR><BR>Arisa=ema=
-L
HOME & GALLERY: http://florapix.nl/Arisaema-L<BR><BR>For help wit=h t=
his
list, send an e-mail to the listowners
at:<BR>Arisaema-L-request at nic.surfnet.nl<BR>===========
===========================
===========================
===========<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>==========
===========================
===========================
============<BR>Search=
the Arisaema-L archives & subscription options
-<BR>http://listserv.surfnet.nl/archives/Arisaema-l.html<BR><BR>Arisaem=a-L=
HOME & GALLERY: http://florapix.nl/Arisaema-L<BR><BR>For help with =thi=
s
list, send an e-mail to the listowners
at:<BR>Arisaema-L-request at nic.surfnet.nl<BR>===========
===========================
===========================
===========<BR></FONT></BLOCK=QUOTE></DIV></FONT><BR><B=
R><BR><DIV CLASS="aol_ad_footer" ID="9f090a8bb03de985736e23d5eef5=2716"><=
FONT style="color: black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR st=yle=
="MARGIN-TOP: 10px"><b>A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. <a href=="htt=
p://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir==http:=
//www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%=26bcd=
=DecemailfooterNO62"> See yours in just 2 easy steps!</a></b></FONT><=/DIV>=
</BODY></HTML>
==========================================================================<br>
Search the Arisaema-L archives & subscription options -<br>
http://listserv.surfnet.nl/archives/Arisaema-l.html<br>
<br>
Arisaema-L HOME & GALLERY: http://florapix.nl/Arisaema-L<br>
<br>
For help with this list, send an e-mail to the listowners at:<br>
Arisaema-L-request at nic.surfnet.nl<br>
==========================================================================<br>
-------------------------------1231696418--
More information about the Arisaema-L
mailing list