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From: "George R. Stilwell, Jr." <GRSJr at WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject: Re: Zantedeschia 'Black Forest' source and others
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Actually  'Schwarzwalder' translates to "one who lives or works in the
Black Forest" rather than the "Black Forest" itself.

In any event, it's a spectacular plant.

Ray

At 04:12 PM 1/20/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi Lotte,
>
>Ja, genau.  Das weis ich schon.  What makes me now think this is not the
>actual cultivar 'Schwarzwalder' is that this one is patented.  If it had
>been released to commerce (under any name) before patenting, it could no=t
>later have been patented.  Of course, once patented, the same plant may =be
>sold under a plethora of names, just as long as the production is licens=ed
>from the plant patent holder.  So it might depend on when the variety
>"Black Forest" was patented.  'Schwarzwalder' is a registered cultivar
>name, but "Black Forest" was not, as of about a year ago.  At that time,=we
>assumed that the two were identical and that calling it "Black Forest" w=as
>just a marketing gimmick for the English speaking world.
>
>Viele Gruesse,
>Jim Shields
>
>At 03:49 PM 1/20/03 -0500, you wrote:
>>Black Forest tanslated to German is Schwarzwald -
>>Lotte Hedges
>>
>> > From: "J.E. Shields" <jshields104 at INSIGHTBB.COM>
>> > Reply-To: "Arisaema Enthusiast Group (AEG) Discussion List (and othe=r
hardy
>> > Aroids)" <ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL>
>> > Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:56:48 -0500
>> > To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
>> > Subject: Zantedeschia 'Black Forest' source and others
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I see that Van Bourgondien is offering Zantedeschia 'Black Forest' i=n
their
>> > catalog this spring, cat. no. 74507 (US PP#11.001) @ $16.95 each.  S=o
>> > perhaps it is not the same as 'Schwarzwald'.  Tel.
>> > 1-800-622-9997   http://www.dutchbulbs.com/
>> >
>> > Wayside Gardens is selling Zantedeschia 'Black Pearl', cat. no. 8000=, @
>> > $9.95 each.  Tel. 1-800-845-1124 http://www.waysidegardens.com/
>> >
>> > Van Bourgondien also have the line of "Callafornia" hybrids and seve=ral
>> > others.
>> >
>> > Wayside is also offering several Arisaema species:  candidissimum,
>> > sikokianum, tortuosum, speciosium, and triphyllum.
>> >
>> > This mention should in no way be construed as an endorsement of eith=er
Van
>> > Bourgondien or Wayside Gardens by me or by anyone else!
>> >
>> > Have fun!
>> >
>> > Jim Shields
>> > in central Indiana
>> >
>> > *************************************************
>> > Jim Shields             USDA Zone 5             Shields Gardens, Ltd.
>> > P.O. Box 92              WWW:    http://www.shieldsgardens.com/
>> > Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA                   Tel. +1-317-896-3925
>> > Member of INTERNATIONAL CLIVIA CO-OP
>
>*************************************************
>Jim Shields             USDA Zone 5             Shields Gardens, Ltd.
>P.O. Box 92              WWW:    http://www.shieldsgardens.com/
>Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA                   Tel. +1-317-896-3925
>Member of INTERNATIONAL CLIVIA CO-OP
>