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Subject: Re: Zantedeschia 'Black Forest' source and others
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Hi Lotte,

Ja, genau.  Das weis ich schon.  What makes me now think this is not the
actual cultivar 'Schwarzwalder' is that this one is patented.  If it had
been released to commerce (under any name) before patenting, it could not
later have been patented.  Of course, once patented, the same plant may b=e
sold under a plethora of names, just as long as the production is license=d
from the plant patent holder.  So it might depend on when the variety
"Black Forest" was patented.  'Schwarzwalder' is a registered cultivar
name, but "Black Forest" was not, as of about a year ago.  At that time, =we
assumed that the two were identical and that calling it "Black Forest" wa=s
just a marketing gimmick for the English speaking world.

Viele Gruesse,
Jim Shields

At 03:49 PM 1/20/03 -0500, you wrote:
>Black Forest tanslated to German is Schwarzwald -
>Lotte Hedges
>
> > From: "J.E. Shields" <jshields104 at INSIGHTBB.COM>
> > Reply-To: "Arisaema Enthusiast Group (AEG) Discussion List (and other=hardy
> > Aroids)" <ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL>
> > Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:56:48 -0500
> > To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
> > Subject: Zantedeschia 'Black Forest' source and others
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I see that Van Bourgondien is offering Zantedeschia 'Black Forest' in=their
> > catalog this spring, cat. no. 74507 (US PP#11.001) @ $16.95 each.  So
> > perhaps it is not the same as 'Schwarzwald'.  Tel.
> > 1-800-622-9997   http://www.dutchbulbs.com/
> >
> > Wayside Gardens is selling Zantedeschia 'Black Pearl', cat. no. 8000,=@
> > $9.95 each.  Tel. 1-800-845-1124 http://www.waysidegardens.com/
> >
> > Van Bourgondien also have the line of "Callafornia" hybrids and sever=al
> > others.
> >
> > Wayside is also offering several Arisaema species:  candidissimum,
> > sikokianum, tortuosum, speciosium, and triphyllum.
> >
> > This mention should in no way be construed as an endorsement of eithe=r Van
> > Bourgondien or Wayside Gardens by me or by anyone else!
> >
> > Have fun!
> >
> > Jim Shields
> > in central Indiana
> >
> > *************************************************
> > Jim Shields             USDA Zone 5             Shields Gardens, Ltd.
> > P.O. Box 92              WWW:    http://www.shieldsgardens.com/
> > Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA                   Tel. +1-317-896-3925
> > Member of INTERNATIONAL CLIVIA CO-OP

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Jim Shields             USDA Zone 5             Shields Gardens, Ltd.
P.O. Box 92              WWW:    http://www.shieldsgardens.com/
Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA                   Tel. +1-317-896-3925
Member of INTERNATIONAL CLIVIA CO-OP