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Arisaema ehimense has some characteristics of both alleged parents, but
also two obvious morphological characteristics not found in either
parent:  a black spadix in many individuals, and long "drip tips" at the
ends of the leaflets.

Barry Yinger
Pennsylvania, USA USDA Zone mid 6

Ernie O'Byrne wrote:
>
> What do intentional hybrids of the two species look like, i.e. the repu=ted
> parents, serratum and tosaense? Do they look like typical A. ehimense? =This
> would seem to be a case in which DNA analysis could solve the controver=sy
> very handily. Is that in the works so far as anyone knows?
>
> Ernie O'Byrne
> Northwest Garden Nursery
> 86813 Central Road
> Eugene OR 97402-9284
> USA
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> plants reliably. Member of NARGS, SRGC, RHS, American Primula Society,
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arisaema Enthusiast Group (AEG) Discussion List (and other hardy
> Aroids) [mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL]On Behalf Of Andy Y.S. Wong
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> To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
> Subject: Re: any spontaneous hybridization?
>
> It should be noted that not everyone agrees that Ariaseama ehimense is =a
> hybrid of A. serratum and A. tosaense.  From what I have seen in nature
> in Shikoku, in Ehime, the two alleged parents are not both present wher=e
> A. ehimense is abundant, and in any case do not overlap in bloom, with
> tosaense flowering much later than serratum.  It is also hard to explai=n
> the origin of the black spadix seen in many individuals of A. ehimense,
> as the two supposed parents in the region do not show that
> characteristic.
>
> Barry R. Yinger
> Pennsylvania, USA USDA Zone mid 6