[Arisaema-l] Pacific Rim

[Charles S. Hunter]

All of this discussion is more evidence that the AEG seed exchange is the
way to go!! And a lot cheaper than the prices of these large arisaemas. For
Americans anyway, seed import permits are easy, and I suspect they are not
even required at all in some other countries based on what Eric has posted
in the seed exchange information. 

 

Tony Avent's article
http://www.plantdelights.com/Arisaema-Jack-in-the-Pulpit-Cobra-Lilies/produc
ts/749//
<http://www.plantdelights.com/Arisaema-Jack-in-the-Pulpit-Cobra-Lilies/produ
cts/749/>  says it takes from 2 to 4 years to get a flowering arisaema from
seed, defending on the species. That is a lot shorter time than for other
flowering plants and shrubs I like to grow such as rhododendron species and
trilliums. 

 

 

Charles Hunter

Smyrna, Georgia USA (still zone 7)

 

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: arisaema-l-bounces at science.uu.nl
[mailto:arisaema-l-bounces at science.uu.nl] On Behalf Of Barry Yinger
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 5:01PM
To: Arisaema Enthusiast Group (AEG) Discussion List (and other hardyAroids
Subject: Re: [Arisaema-l] Pacific Rim

 

It takes 8 to 10 hours plus direct costs to process an international
shipment, much more from here to the UK. What is your time worth?

 

 

On Feb 5, 2012, at 4:14 PM, Tim Chapman wrote:

 

> Just to add a little to this.  Obtaining a phyto in the US is a ridiculous
process. To start, the phyto itself costs $47 (I think) no matter what.  A
larger value shipment is over $100.  So the base cost not figuring any time
and effort is more than most other countries charge.  Now it would make
since if you could just stop by a station with the plants and get an
inspection done. Nope, not possible.  Well then it would be good to just
call the agent to stop by and examine the plants.. Nope, not gonna happen.
So with the USDA's move into technology, much like obtaining an import
permit now, it has become harder. One has to go online and request a phyto
through the USDA's site, they will contact your local office after a few
days, then your local agent will contact you when they can, then you
schedule a visit (won't be same day because they are spread too thin to
cover their areas). Then they come and inspect , go back to the office to
type it up. Then deliver the phyto, pr

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> ably a day later.  So it will take you at least a week to get it. If its
for dormant bulbs, it won't hurt them.  But for those shipping bare root
plants it's hard to plan cleaning etc without hurting the plants as they
wait for inspection.  The amount of time wasted on the process is worth more
than the already expensive permit.  As Barry says, very few would believe
this let alone pay what it's really worth.  Hard to compete with those who
can get $5 permits easily, whenever they want. 

> 

> Tim Chapman

> 

> On Feb 5, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Barry Yinger <barryyinger at gmail.com> wrote:

> 

>> I don't know about Canada, but I can tell you from extensive personal
experience that it is not possible to charge enough money to make it
worthwhile to export plants from the US to other countries. Customers will
never accept how much work it is, and how frustrating the experience can be.

>> 

>> Barry Yinger

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