[Arisaema-l] Pacific Rim

Barry Yinger barryyinger at gmail.com
Sun Feb 5 23:01:09 CET 2012


It takes 8 to 10 hours plus direct costs to process an international shipment, much more from here to the UK. What is your time worth?


On Feb 5, 2012, at 4:14 PM, Tim Chapman wrote:

> Just to add a little to this.  Obtaining a phyto in the US is a ridiculous process. To start, the phyto itself costs $47 (I think) no matter what.  A larger value shipment is over $100.  So the base cost not figuring any time and effort is more than most other countries charge.  Now it would make since if you could just stop by a station with the plants and get an inspection done. Nope, not possible.  Well then it would be good to just call the agent to stop by and examine the plants.. Nope, not gonna happen.  So with the USDA's move into technology, much like obtaining an import permit now, it has become harder. One has to go online and request a phyto through the USDA's site, they will contact your local office after a few days, then your local agent will contact you when they can, then you schedule a visit (won't be same day because they are spread too thin to cover their areas). Then they come and inspect , go back to the office to type it up. Then deliver the phyto, prob
> ably a day later.  So it will take you at least a week to get it. If its for dormant bulbs, it won't hurt them.  But for those shipping bare root plants it's hard to plan cleaning etc without hurting the plants as they wait for inspection.  The amount of time wasted on the process is worth more than the already expensive permit.  As Barry says, very few would believe this let alone pay what it's really worth.  Hard to compete with those who can get $5 permits easily, whenever they want. 
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> Tim Chapman
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> On Feb 5, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Barry Yinger <barryyinger at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I don't know about Canada, but I can tell you from extensive personal experience that it is not possible to charge enough money to make it worthwhile to export plants from the US to other countries. Customers will never accept how much work it is, and how frustrating the experience can be.
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>> Barry Yinger
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