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From: Adam Fikso <adam14113 at AMERITECH.NET>
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Thanks Tony..  A necessary and welcome clarification. Temperature
indications I sent for Black Jack were with about 6"of snow cover.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Avent" <tony at PLANTDELIGHTS.COM>
To: <ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL>
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: Hardiness List - was New member


> Adam, etal:
>
> The aroid hardiness list is one that we compiled.  It was never our int=ent
> to indicate what plants would live in what conditions, but only to
> indicate the winter hardiness of the plant under ideal conditions.  If =you
> don't start with this data, all other growing conditions are irrelevant.
> You can find the list posted at
> http://www.aroid.org/horticulture/hardy.php   We welcome additions or
> changes, but only where we can get accurate temperature data without th=e
> benefit of snow cover.
> Tony Avent
> Plant Delights Nursery @
> Juniper Level Botanic Garden
> 9241 Sauls Road
> Raleigh, North Carolina  27603  USA
> Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F
> Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F
> USDA Hardiness Zone 7b
> email tony at plantdelights.com
> website  http://www.plantdelights.com
> phone 919 772-4794
> fax  919 772-4752
> "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least
> three times" - Avent
>
>
>
> Adam Fikso wrote:
>> Exactly my point.  And the reasons for revising the list--growing
>> conditions is needed. ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>     *From:* Erick Adams <mailto:rogthegoat at HOTMAIL.COM>
>>     *To:* ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL <mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL>
>>     *Sent:* Friday, March 13, 2009 3:38 PM
>>     *Subject:* Hardiness List - was New member
>>
>>      A discussion about what people grow where & how sounds good, but =a
>>     simple list
>>     of average minimum temperature tolerances doesn't begin to cover
>>     all the permutations involved.
>>      An example would be the species from the Himalayas.  Several of
>>     them are technically winter hardy
>>     for USDA zones 5 or 6, but I find them harder to grow outdoors
>>     than equally cold tolerant Japanese species. The difference: I hav=e
>> dry summers & wet winters with little or no
>>     snow cover, basically the opposite
>>     conditions the Himalayan species enjoy.
>>      About 15 years ago I bought a Trochodendron aralioides seedling. =The
>> common Hardiness rating at the time was zone 8. It's still alive and
>> happy here in zone 6A and now I believe it's
>>     listed as zone 5.  A few years back we had about three
>>     years where I could overwinter typically zone 7 plants outdoors
>>     without any additional contrivances.  Then things went
>>     back to normal and they all croaked.  So I don't put too much
>>     stock in the USDA zones.
>>      -erick
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