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I just had a talk with Roger Gossler of Gossler Farms Nursery in
Springfield, OR, a well-known magnolia and woody plant nursery. He said t=hat
last year he had a bumper crop of Arisaema sikokianum seed and he planted=it
all without cleaning it at all. He said that it came up like cress. I hav=e
never tried planting uncleaned seed, following the common advice that it
must be cleaned.

Have others planted uncleaned seed? of other species? What was the result=?
It would be wonderful to not have to go through the hassle of cleaning th=e
seed (except for sending in to the exchange) for planting. I do know that
often information gets repeated by author after author as common wisdom
without anyone actually checking to see whether the information is true, =for
example, the common "wisdom" not to prune daphnes.

Ernie O'Byrne
Northwest Garden Nursery
86813 Central Road
Eugene, ORegon 97402
USA
USDA Z. 7B


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In a message dated 7/8/08 5:50:38 PM, studio.pozzitaubert at TISCALI.IT
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The  seeds ripened in July may germinate in two weeks after starting =the
Deno_McClement's method and the

tuberlet are about 8/10 mm in late September.

I don't take credit for the idea of washing seed with detergent. I go=t
it from Ray Stilwell.


Jim
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OR, a 
well-known magnolia and woody plant nursery. He said that last year he =
had a 
bumper crop of Arisaema sikokianum seed and he planted it all without =
cleaning 
it at all. He said that it came up like cress. I have never tried =
planting 
uncleaned seed, following the common advice that it must be 
cleaned.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN =
class=140400204-09072008>Have 
others planted uncleaned seed? of other species? What was the result? It ==
would 
be wonderful to not have to go through the hassle of cleaning the seed =
(except 
for sending in to the exchange) for planting. I do know that often =
information 
gets repeated by author after author as common wisdom without anyone =
actually 
checking to see whether the information is true, for example, the common ==

"wisdom" not to prune daphnes.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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7B<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></SPAN></FONT>
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