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From: Henry <treehugger53ah at YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Pinellia pedatisecta
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I would not say the verdict is unanimous. It is certainly not a thug in m=ay garden, but it is at least marginally hardy here.

I got one at Funkie Gardens a few years back. I like it, but my gardens a=re not known for "neatness."

It could be something that after years of selection for our climate might=become a problem.

--Henry Fieldseth
Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA, zone 4/5


--- On Mon, 7/7/08, Thomas E. Jacobs <tejacobs at OPTONLINE.NET> wrote:

> From: Thomas E. Jacobs <tejacobs at OPTONLINE.NET>
> Subject: Re: Pinellia pedatisecta
> To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
> Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 9:34 AM
> Sounds like the verdict is unanimous; it's Pinellia
> pedatisecta. And it is invasive, popping up everywhere.
> Very much outdoing our native A. triphyllum. Thanks for the
> warning. I've got to get rid of it. So this is the same
> as "green dragon"?
>
> Wonder if this is on the USDA's list of undesireables.
> We certainly wouldn't want it in our seedEx.
>
> Tom Jacobs
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Jim McClements, Dover, DE z6
>   To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
>   Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 9:15 AM
>   Subject: Re: Pinellia pedatisecta
>
>
>
>   In a message dated 7/7/08 8:44:32 AM, dam7 at CDC.GOV
> writes:
>
>
>
>     I'll add that it's a weedy pest.  I planted one
> corm in 2000; the next
>     year or two saw it produce seed (every flower produces
> seed), and new
>     plants emerged  I thought how nice.....then the
> nightmare began.  New
>     plants started emerging throughout the garden and it
> quickly
>     out-competed Trillium and other southeastern US
> natives.  I began
>     pulling plants and haven't stopped.  In many cases
> the stalk will break
>     away leaving the corm so one much take the extra effort
> with a trowel to
>     make sure that the entire plant is removed.  Now this
> isn't too terrible
>     a task, weeding is part of being a gardener and I
> usually enjoy the task
>     except this plant gets going during our hot summers.
> The heat
>     eventually drive me indoors so I invariably miss plants
> that mature and
>     produce seeds.  It is under control but not eradicated.
>
>
>
>
>
>   I'll second David's comments, and also add P.
> ternata and P. tripartita to the list, as well as almost
> all the rest of the genus.
>
>   P. cordata has such attractive foliage that I do let it
> spread a bit (which it does by bulbils, always scary). So
> far it's stayed in one area.
>
>   The only "safe" Pinellia is P. 'Polly
> Spout', a hybrid between P. pedatisecta and P.
> tripartita 'Atropurpurea' created by Dick Weaver of
> WeDu Nursery a few years back. It combines the attractive
> properties of both parents and is STERILE!
>
>   Jim
>
>
>
>   Jim McClements
>   50 S. Prestwick Ct.
>   Dover, Delaware 19904, USA
>   Zone 7a
>   302-734-2836
>
>
>
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