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From: Eva Gallagher <galla at MAGMA.CA>
Subject: Re: ChenYi and wild dug plants
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Yes I have to agree with Michael. I have mentioned several times on vario=us
lists why not encourage Chen Yi to collect seeds. The argument was that t=hey
(the collectors) could not identify the plants once they were in seed,
meaning that they dig up the plants when in flower. However it seems to m=e
that by going twice once in flower and once in seeds it could easily be
done. She could easily charge just a much for the seeds as she does plant=s
and it would be a lot less trouble/expense in terms of labour, transport,
storage etc. However I understand that a lot of plants are dug up anyway =for
her for Chinese medicine and probably our nursery needs are small compare=d
to this other requirement. Also seems to me that I read somewhere that sh=e
had some sort of government connection so could bypass or readily receive
permits - but please do not quote me on that. However we should still not
encourage digging up wild plants in such a wholesale way. I think if all
nurseries/individuals that order from her said we are not buying plants b=ut
would like to buy seeds instead that would help.
Eva Gallagher
Deep River, Ontario, Canada
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Goetz" <michaelgoetz at GMX.NET>
To: <ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL>
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 6:07 AM
Subject: Re: ChenYi


> Hi all,
>
> I think one should add that Chen Yi does not sell nursery-propagated
> plants but only plants that are removed from the wild in China; some
> species (such as chinese Cypripediums) are well endangered due to remov=al
> from the wild.
> I dno't order from her and I think everyone should spend a thought if i=t
> is good to support such a business, especially as - conderning Arisaema=s -
> most plants are not so special, no matter what the photos say.
>
> Best regards from Munich,.
>
> Michael
> michaelgoetz at gmx.net
>
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>> Datum: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 01:00:26 +0100
>> Von: Goete Svanholm <gote at SVANHOLM.SE>
>> An: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
>> Betreff: Re: ChenYi
>
>> To order from Chen Yi is an unusual experience.
>> You get a number of plants and quite often they are wrongly named.
>> Not so that you get something cheaper - often it is more exotic.
>> I once ordered  Lilium henryii and got my first Lilium rosthornii -
>> nearly
>> unknown in the literature.
>> Then I ordered a second rosthornii and got Lilium lijiangense - even m=ore
>> unknown.
>> The last unintentional but welcome aquisition was L papilliferum.
>> The plants come very well washed and sometimes with roots trimmed off.
>> This means that they sometimes are difficult to establish.
>> O the whole it is worthwhile provided one is prepared to nurse the pla=nts
>> on.
>> Some genera travel badly Gentians and Primulas are diffiult.
>> Roots and corms go better.
>> To call the naming poetic is probably poetical jusitce :-)
>> G=F6te
>>  PS
>> remember the air freigt is nearly as expensive as the merchandise.
>>
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