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New to me, and fascinating.  It shouln't be too expensive to go to your =
local pet shop or aquarium and get some, put it various dilutions in a =
spray bhottle and try it out.  I've found an aspirin spray and drench to ==
get rid of it for the following year, but no treatment that takes it out ==
on the spot.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jim McClements, Dover, DE z6 
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL 
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 7:59 AM
Subject: Rust

Those of you who subscribe to Alpine-L will know that for the past =
week there's been an ongoing discussion about Arisaema rust, its cause =
and treatments, most of which has previously been covered on this list.

However, a posting yesterday, copied below, brings a dimension to =
rusts that was news to me. Are there any treatments out there that =
incorporate this knowledge into something practical? Has anyone tried =
eother of the 2 dyes mentioned?

DNA testing has removed most rusts from Kingdom Fungi,  They are now =
usually
the fungal generation of Amoebae.  In tropical fish they use aniline =
dyes to
kill the free swimming generation of Ich.  Phytophthora (Root Rot, =
former
fungus) and Macrocystis (Giant Brown Kelp, former plant) are cosely
related.  The single cell free-swimming generation being nearly =
identical.
Aniline dyes used in fish are Methylene Blue (light activated),  and
Malachite green which doesn't require light.
Larry Wallace
Cincinnati

Jim

Jim McClements
50 S. Prestwick Ct.
Dover, Delaware 19904, USA
Zone 7a
302-734-2836

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<DIV>New to me, and fascinating.&nbsp; It shouln't be too expensive to =
go to 
your local pet shop or aquarium and get some, put it&nbsp;various =
dilutions in a 
spray bhottle and try it out.&nbsp; I've found an aspirin spray and 
drench&nbsp;to get rid of it for the following year, but no treatment =
that takes 
it out on the spot.</DIV>
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<A title=JimMcClem at AOL.COM href="mailto:JimMcClem at AOL.COM">Jim ==
McClements, 
Dover, DE z6</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 15, 2007 =
7:59 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Rust</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT face=Geneva =
color=#000000 
size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Those of you who subscribe to Alpine-=L =
will know 
that for the past week there's been an ongoing discussion about =
Arisaema rust, 
its cause and treatments, most of which has previously been covered on ==
this 
list.<BR><BR>However, a posting yesterday, copied below, brings a =
dimension to 
rusts that was news to me. Are there any treatments out there that =
incorporate 
this knowledge into something practical? Has anyone tried eother of =
the 2 dyes 
mentioned?<BR><BR><BR></FONT><FONT face=Helvetica color=#000000==
size=2 
FAMILY="SANSSERIF">DNA testing has removed most rusts from Kingdom= 
Fungi,&nbsp; They are now usually<BR>the fungal generation of =
Amoebae.&nbsp; 
In tropical fish they use aniline dyes to<BR>kill the free swimming =
generation 
of Ich.&nbsp; Phytophthora (Root Rot, former<BR>fungus) and =
Macrocystis (Giant 
Brown Kelp, former plant) are cosely<BR>related.&nbsp; The single cell ==

free-swimming generation being nearly identical.<BR>Aniline dyes used =
in fish 
are Methylene Blue (light activated),&nbsp; and<BR>Malachite green =
which 
doesn't require light.<BR>Larry Wallace<BR>Cincinnati<BR></FONT><FONT= 
face=Geneva color=#000000 size=2 =
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>Jim<BR><BR><BR><BR>Jim 
McClements<BR>50 S. Prestwick Ct.<BR>Dover, Delaware 19904, =
USA<BR>Zone 
7a<BR>302-734-2836<BR></FONT><FONT face=Geneva color=#000000 =
size=2 
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