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>Those of you who subscribe to Alpine-L will know that for the past week
>there's been an ongoing discussion about Arisaema rust, its cause and
>treatments,
>most of which has previously been covered on this list.
Jim,

That is interesting. Particularly because Phytophthora (Root Rot) is a
serious problem here in North Carolina particularly for Rhododendron. I'v=e
tried all the usual chemicals like Subdue drenches with little success.

The best treatment has been Messenger (developed at Cornell). While other
treatments delayed the death of a plant, Messenger has actually revived
plants of both Rhododendron and Taxus that were badly infected and they'r=e
still healthy several years later.

Messenger supposedly activates a gene in the plant that lets it fight off
diseases. Whether this would be so for Arisaema rust I have no idea.
One of the AEG group was going to try Messenger on Arisaema rust, but I
can't remember who it was. Fortunately, knock wood, I have no Arisaema ru=st
to experiment with. (please, don't send any you guys).

But using dyes is certainly an interesting idea.

Ray



>DNA testing has removed most rusts from Kingdom Fungi,   They are now us=ually
>the fungal generation of Amoebae.   In tropical fish they use aniline dy=es to
>kill the free swimming generation of Ich.   Phytophthora (Root Rot, form=er
>fungus) and Macrocystis (Giant Brown Kelp, former plant) are cosely
>related.   The single cell free-swimming generation being nearly identic=al.
>Aniline dyes used in fish are Methylene Blue (light activated),   and
>Malachite green which doesn't require light.
>Larry Wallace
>Cincinnati
>
>Jim
>
>
>
>Jim McClements
>50 S. Prestwick Ct.
>Dover, Delaware 19904, USA
>Zone 7a
>302-734-2836
>
>
>
>**************************************
>  See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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>Those of you who subscribe to Alpine-L = will know that for the pa=st
>week there's been an ongoing discussion about Ar= isaema rust, its cau=se
>and treatments, most of which has previously been cov= ered on this li=st.
>
>However, a posting yesterday, copied below, brings a dimension to rusts
>that= was news to me. Are there any treatments out there that incorpor=ate
>this kn= owledge into something practical? Has anyone tried eother of =the
>2 dyes ment= ioned?
>
>
>DNA testing has removed most rusts from Kingdom Fungi,  They ar= e now=usually
>the fungal generation of Amoebae.  In tropical fish they use aniline d==yes to
>kill the free swimming generation of Ich.  Phytophthora (Root Rot, for==mer
>fungus) and Macrocystis (Giant Brown Kelp, former plant) are cosely
>related.  The single cell free-swimming generation being nearly identi==cal.
>Aniline dyes used in fish are Methylene Blue (light activated),  and
>Malachite green which doesn't require light.
>Larry Wallace
>Cincinnati
>
>Jim
>
>
>
>Jim McClements
>50 S. Prestwick Ct.
>Dover, Delaware 19904, USA
>Zone 7a
>302-734-2836
>
>
>
>**************************************
>See what's = free at http://www.aol.com.
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Those of you who subscribe to Alpine-L will know that for the past week
<br>
there's been an ongoing discussion about Arisaema rust, its cause and
treatments, <br>
most of which has previously been covered on this
list.</blockquote>Jim,<br><br>
That is interesting. Particularly because Phytophthora (Root Rot) is a
serious problem here in North Carolina particularly for Rhododendron.
I've tried all the usual chemicals like Subdue drenches with little
success.<br><br>
The best treatment has been Messenger (developed at Cornell). While other
treatments delayed the death of a plant, Messenger has actually revived
plants of both Rhododendron and Taxus that were badly infected and
they're still healthy several years later.<br><br>
Messenger supposedly activates a gene in the plant that lets it fight off
diseases. Whether this would be so for Arisaema rust I have no idea.
<br>
One of the AEG group was going to try Messenger on Arisaema rust, but I
can't remember who it was. Fortunately, knock wood, I have no Arisaema
rust to experiment with. (please, don't send any you guys).<br><br>
But using dyes is certainly an interesting idea.<br><br>
Ray<br><br>
<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>DNA testing has removed most ru=sts
from Kingdom Fungi,&nbsp;&nbsp; They are now usually<br>
the fungal generation of Amoebae.&nbsp;&nbsp; In tropical fish they use
aniline dyes to<br>
kill the free swimming generation of Ich.&nbsp;&nbsp; Phytophthora (Root
Rot, former<br>
fungus) and Macrocystis (Giant Brown Kelp, former plant) are cosely<br>
related.&nbsp;&nbsp; The single cell free-swimming generation being
nearly identical.<br>
Aniline dyes used in fish are Methylene Blue (light
activated),&nbsp;&nbsp; and<br>
Malachite green which doesn't require light.<br>
Larry Wallace<br>
Cincinnati<br><br>
Jim<br><br>
<br><br>
Jim McClements<br>
50 S. Prestwick Ct.<br>
Dover, Delaware 19904, USA<br>
Zone 7a<br>
302-734-2836<br><br>
<br><br>
**************************************<br>
&nbsp;See what's free at
<a href="http://www.aol.com/" eudora="autourl">http://www.aol.com</a>=.<br><br>
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</font><font face="helvetica" size=3 color="#00003D">Those of you w=ho
subscribe to Alpine-L = will know that for the past week there's be=en
an ongoing discussion about Ar= isaema rust, its cause and treatments,
most of which has previously been cov= ered on this list.<br><br>
However, a posting yesterday, copied below, brings a dimension to rusts
that= was news to me. Are there any treatments out there that incorpora=te
this kn= owledge into something practical? Has anyone tried eother of t=he
2 dyes ment= ioned?<br><br>
<br>
</font><font face="helvetica" size=1 color="#00003D">DNA testing ha=s
removed most rusts from Kingdom Fungi,&nbsp; They ar= e now usually<br>
the fungal generation of Amoebae.&nbsp; In tropical fish they use aniline
d= yes to<br>
kill the free swimming generation of Ich.&nbsp; Phytophthora (Root Rot,
for= mer<br>
fungus) and Macrocystis (Giant Brown Kelp, former plant) are cosely<br>
related.&nbsp; The single cell free-swimming generation being nearly
identi= cal.<br>
Aniline dyes used in fish are Methylene Blue (light activated),&nbsp;
and<b> Malachite green which doesn't require light.<br>
Larry Wallace<br>
Cincinnati<br>
</font><font face="helvetica" size=3 color="#00003D"><br>
Jim<br><br>
<br><br>
Jim McClements<br>
50 S. Prestwick Ct.<br>
Dover, Delaware 19904, USA<br>
Zone 7a<br>
302-734-2836<br>
</font><font face="helvetica" size=3><br><br>
<br>
**************************************<br>
See what's = free at
<a href="http://www.aol.com/" eudora="autourl">http://www.aol.com</a>=.<br>
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