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Yours don't have shiny undersides?  Is Gusman wrong?  
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From: Christopher Gussman 
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL 
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: A. triphyllum stewardsonii


Sorry I took so long responding.  The undersurfaces are smooth, =
perhaps glaucous although (without too much study) it does not stand =
out.  However, those ribs are distinctive.  When they are happy, they =
can get pretty big, maybe not as large as the largest triphyllums, but =
as big or bigger than many.  However, in my garden they are not quite =
that large.  In the wild I have only seen them on floodplains or areas =
receiving above average moisture.   They should be happy this year.  The ==
weather in NJ has been the exact opposite of last year.   After a very =
dry early spring, we are now having frequent storms.   

----- Original Message -----
From: Adam Fikso
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 1:24 PM
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
Subject: Re: A. triphyllum stewardsonii

Hello Christopher. I delayed answering you on this matter because  I ==
was busy and I had to reread  the Gusman reference, and go out in the =
yard to check on the plants.   To sum up. I think (thought) I had =
stewardsonii, because it has an outer ribbed surface to the spathe. It =
is smaller and more gracile than my other triphyllums...BUT...it does =
NOT have leaves with a shiny under-surface.   They are matte, glaucous, =
and not otherwise distinguishable from the other triphyllums I have =
except perhaps within the range of variations of shape of the leaflets.= 

Do yours have shiny undersurfaces?  Is the Gusman book incorrect on =
this point? Are there perhaps two forms of stewardsonii? Anybody else?  =
More on this matter? 
Adam in Glenview, IL USDA Zone 5a




----- Original Message ----- 
From: Christopher Gussman 
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL 
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 3:08 PM
Subject: A. triphyllum stewardsonii


How many of you are growing this species/subspecies, and/or form =
of A. triphyllum?
I consider this a unique plant, with the raised, white ridges on =
the outer part of the spathe.  The ones I have seen in the wild have =
always been on moist floodplains.  I had them planted in two different =
areas.  One near "normal" triphyllums died out.  Another which gets =
fairly regular watering has survived and bloomed each year but not =
increased much or set seed.  I know these love to be wet, and may try =
moving some into an undrained pot like I grow my Sarracenias.   A =
fantastic Arisaema that is certainly worth growing!   


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stewardsonii</DIV>
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<DIV>Sorry I took so long responding.&nbsp; The undersurfaces are =
smooth, 
perhaps glaucous although (without too much study) it does not stand= 
out.&nbsp; However, those ribs are distinctive.&nbsp; When they are =
happy, 
they can get pretty big, maybe not as large as the largest =
triphyllums, but as 
big or bigger than many.&nbsp; However, in my garden they are not =
quite that 
large.&nbsp; In the wild I have only seen them on floodplains or areas ==

receiving above average moisture.&nbsp;&nbsp; They should be happy =
this 
year.&nbsp; The weather in NJ has been the exact opposite of last 
year.&nbsp;&nbsp; After a very dry early spring, we are now having =
frequent 
storms.&nbsp;&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B> 
Adam Fikso</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 10, 200=6 =
1:24 
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> =
ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3>Hello Christopher. I delayed =
answering you on 
this matter because&nbsp; I was busy and I had to reread&nbsp; the =
Gusman 
reference, and go out in the yard to check on the plants. &nbsp; To =
sum up. 
I think (thought) I had stewardsonii, because it has an outer ribbed ==
surface 
to the spathe. It is&nbsp;smaller and more gracile than my other 
triphyllums...BUT...it does&nbsp;NOT have leaves with a shiny 
under-surface.&nbsp;&nbsp; They are matte, glaucous, and not =
otherwise 
distinguishable from the other triphyllums&nbsp;I have except =
perhaps within 
the range of variations of shape of the leaflets. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3>Do yours have shiny =
undersurfaces?&nbsp; Is the 
Gusman book incorrect on this point? Are there perhaps two forms of= 
stewardsonii? Anybody else?&nbsp; More on this matter? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3>Adam in Glenview, IL USDA Zone =
5a</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B> 
<A title=OlgaChrisEmily at MSN.COM 
href="mailto:OlgaChrisEmily at MSN.COM">Christopher Gussman</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
title=ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL 
=
href="mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL">ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL</A>= 
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 09, 200=6 =
3:08 
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> A. triphyllum=2=0
stewardsonii</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>How many of you are growing this species/subspecies, and/or =
form of 
A. triphyllum?</DIV>
<DIV>I consider this a unique plant, with the raised, white ridges ==
on the 
outer part of the spathe.&nbsp; The ones I have seen in the wild =
have 
always been on moist floodplains.&nbsp; I had them planted in two= 
different areas.&nbsp; One near "normal" triphyllums died =
out.&nbsp; 
Another which gets fairly regular watering has survived and =
bloomed each 
year but not increased much or set seed.&nbsp; I know these love =
to be 
wet, and may try moving some into an undrained pot like I grow my= 
Sarracenias.&nbsp;&nbsp; A fantastic Arisaema that is certainly =
worth 
growing!&nbsp;&nbsp; 
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