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From: Christopher Gussman <OlgaChrisEmily at MSN.COM>
Subject: Re: A. triphyllum stewardsonii
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Sorry I took so long responding.  The undersurfaces are smooth, perhaps g==
laucous although (without too much study) it does not stand out.  However==
, those ribs are distinctive.  When they are happy, they can get pretty b==
ig, maybe not as large as the largest triphyllums, but as big or bigger t==
han many.  However, in my garden they are not quite that large.  In the w==
ild I have only seen them on floodplains or areas receiving above average==
moisture.   They should be happy this year.  The weather in NJ has been ==
the exact opposite of last year.   After a very dry early spring, we are ==
now having frequent storms.    

----- Original Message -----
From: Adam Fikso
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 1:24 PM
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
Subject: Re: A. triphyllum stewardsonii

Hello Christopher. I delayed answering you on this matter because  I was ==
busy and I had to reread  the Gusman reference, and go out in the yard to==
check on the plants.   To sum up. I think (thought) I had stewardsonii, ==
because it has an outer ribbed surface to the spathe. It is smaller and m==
ore gracile than my other triphyllums...BUT...it does NOT have leaves wit==
h a shiny under-surface.   They are matte, glaucous, and not otherwise di==
stinguishable from the other triphyllums I have except perhaps within the==
range of variations of shape of the leaflets.  

Do yours have shiny undersurfaces?  Is the Gusman book incorrect on this ==
point? Are there perhaps two forms of stewardsonii? Anybody else?  More o==
n this matter?  
Adam in Glenview, IL USDA Zone 5a




----- Original Message -----  
From: Christopher Gussman  
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL  
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 3:08 PM
Subject: A. triphyllum stewardsonii


How many of you are growing this species/subspecies, and/or form of A. tr==
iphyllum?
I consider this a unique plant, with the raised, white ridges on the oute==
r part of the spathe.  The ones I have seen in the wild have always been ==
on moist floodplains.  I had them planted in two different areas.  One ne==
ar "normal" triphyllums died out.  Another which gets fairly regular wate==
ring has survived and bloomed each year but not increased much or set see==
d.  I know these love to be wet, and may try moving some into an undraine==
d pot like I grow my Sarracenias.   A fantastic Arisaema that is certainl==
y worth growing!    

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ackground-color:#ffffff; "><DIV>Sorry I took so long responding.&nbsp; Th==
e undersurfaces are smooth, perhaps glaucous although (without too much s==
tudy) it does not stand out.&nbsp; However, those ribs are distinctive.&n==
bsp; When they are happy, they can get pretty big, maybe not as large as ==
the largest triphyllums, but as big or bigger than many.&nbsp; However, i==
n my garden they are not quite that large.&nbsp; In the wild I have only ==
seen them on floodplains or areas receiving above average moisture.&nbsp;==
&nbsp; They should be happy this year.&nbsp; The weather in NJ has been t==
he exact opposite of last year.&nbsp;&nbsp; After a very dry early spring==
, we are now having frequent storms.&nbsp;&nbsp; </DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>==
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UND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> Adam Fikso</DI==
V> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 10, 2006=1=
:24 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> ARISAEMA-L at NIC.=SU=
RFNET.NL</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: A. t=ri=
phyllum stewardsonii</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <META content="MSHTML 6.=00=
2900.2873" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE>  <DIV><FONT face=Arial=si=
ze=3>Hello Christopher. I delayed answering you on this matter becaus=e&=
nbsp; I was busy and I had to reread&nbsp; the Gusman reference, and go o==
ut in the yard to check on the plants. &nbsp; To sum up. I think (thought==
) I had stewardsonii, because it has an outer ribbed surface to the spath==
e. It is&nbsp;smaller and more gracile than my other triphyllums...BUT...==
it does&nbsp;NOT have leaves with a shiny under-surface.&nbsp;&nbsp; They==
are matte, glaucous, and not otherwise distinguishable from the other tr==
iphyllums&nbsp;I have except perhaps within the range of variations of sh==
ape of the leaflets. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3><=/FON=
T>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3>Do yours have shiny u=nder=
surfaces?&nbsp; Is the Gusman book incorrect on this point? Are there per==
haps two forms of stewardsonii? Anybody else?&nbsp; More on this matter? ==
</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3>Adam in Glenview, IL U=SDA =
Zone 5a</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV==
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE ==
dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT=: 5p=
x; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="BA=CK=
GROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A tit==
le=OlgaChrisEmily at MSN.COM href="mailto:OlgaChrisEmily at MSN.COM">Ch=rist=
opher Gussman</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =ti=
tle=ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL href="mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET=.NL"=
>ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><=B>=
Sent:</B> Friday, June 09, 2006 3:08 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt =ar=
ial"><B>Subject:</B> A. triphyllum stewardsonii</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DI==
V>How many of you are growing this species/subspecies, and/or form of A. ==
triphyllum?</DIV> <DIV>I consider this a unique plant, with the raised, w==
hite ridges on the outer part of the spathe.&nbsp; The ones I have seen i==
n the wild have always been on moist floodplains.&nbsp; I had them plante==
d in two different areas.&nbsp; One near "normal" triphyllums died out.&n==
bsp; Another which gets fairly regular watering has survived and bloomed ==
each year but not increased much or set seed.&nbsp; I know these love to ==
be wet, and may try moving some into an undrained pot like I grow my Sarr==
acenias.&nbsp;&nbsp; A fantastic Arisaema that is certainly worth growing==
!&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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