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From: Stacy Holtzman <sholtzma at INDIANA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Arisaema tissue culture
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This has always interested me too about Arisaema. I have never known. I=s
the variegation genetic (inherited as a "pattern") or cytoplasmic (i.e.
plastids)? If you tc a silver center, you should get silver centers no
matter what, right?
Stacy Holtzman
Bloomington Drosophila Stock Center
Biology Dept., Jordan Hall A512
1001 E. Third St.
Bloomington, IN 47405-3700
Phone: 812-855-5782
Fax: 812-855-2577
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From: Arisaema Enthusiast Group (AEG) Discussion List (and other hardy
Aroids) [mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL] On Behalf Of Henry
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 10:35 AM
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
Subject: Re: Arisaema tissue culture
Tony,
I understand that with some variegated plants, tissue culture will not
capture the variegation.
If the starting tissue is the green part of the leaf you will get a green
plant, if the sample is in the silver part, you get a silver plant.
Do the variegated arisaema follow this rule?
--Henry Fieldseth
Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA, zone 4
PS
The A. sikokianum was a quick sell-out at the rare plants table at our
spring sale.
http://fsmn.org/events_plant.html
Tony Avent <tony at PLANTDELIGHTS.COM> wrote:
Ellen:
You are correct in that some species don't need tc unless you are looking
for really large numbers. After five years of tc, we have not seen a sin=gle
mutant yet. I'm still looking for the white edged forms, but no luck.
Those with silver patterns do not show up as patterned until they mature =and
have gone through two dormancies.
_____
Sneak preview the all-new
<http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=40762/*http:/www.yahoo.com/preview> Yahoo.=com.
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Arisaema. I have never known. Is the variegation genetic =
(inherited as a “pattern”)
or cytoplasmic (i.e. plastids)? If you tc a silver center, you should =
get
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Arisaema
Enthusiast Group (AEG) Discussion List (and other hardy Aroids)
[mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL] <b><span =
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>Henry<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, June 09, =
2006 10:35
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Arisaema =
tissue
culture</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span ==
style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span ==
style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Tony,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span ==
style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span ==
style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I understand that with some variegated plants, tissue culture =
will not
capture the variegation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span ==
style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span ==
style='font-size:
12.0pt'>If the starting tissue is the green part of the leaf you will =
get a
green plant, if the sample is in the silver part, you get a silver =
plant.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span ==
style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span ==
style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Do the variegated arisaema follow this =
rule?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span ==
style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span ==
style='font-size:
12.0pt'>--Henry Fieldseth<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Minneapolis</span></font></st1:City>,
<st1:State w:st="on">Minnesota</st1:State>, <st1:country-region =
w:st="on">USA</st1:country-region></st1:place>,
zone 4<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span ==
style='font-size:
12.0pt'>PS <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span ==
style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The A. sikokianum was a quick sell-out at the rare plants =
table at
our spring sale.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span ==
style='font-size:
12.0pt'><a =
href="http://fsmn.org/events_plant.html">http://fsmn.org/events_plant=.h=
tml</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<br>
<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Tony Avent
<tony at PLANTDELIGHTS.COM></span></i></b> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span ==
style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Ellen:<br>
<br>
You are correct in that some species don't need tc unless you are =
looking for
really large numbers. After five years of tc, we have not seen a =
single
mutant yet. I'm still looking for the white edged forms, but no
luck. Those with silver patterns do not show up as patterned until ==
they
mature and have gone through two =
dormancies.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
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style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Sneak preview the <a
href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=40762/*http:/www.yahoo.com/previ=ew">=
all-new
Yahoo.com</a>. It's not radically different. Just radically better. =
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