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From: Adam Fikso <irisman at AMERITECH.NET>
Subject: Re: Hail Storm
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Paul. Since they have hail in China, I expect so.
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From: Janelle Denny
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 7:00 PM
Subject: Hail Storm
A hail storm came through today and shredded up lots of my arisaema's. ==
Will the tubers be OK next year ?
Thanks
Paul Denny
Adam Fikso <irisman at AMERITECH.NET> wrote:
I'm not sure about these things other than that drainage is the key =
to most of the problems people have. I also make sure that they have =
enough calcium or limestone chips (sieved to take out the dust) =
available.
I lost only one tuber from Chen Yi this year out of about 25, =
(growing indoors under lights because they were breaking dormancy) , but ==
it was definitely because the medium was too wet. I thought that using =
cypress mulch would help solve the problems associated with pine mulch =
which rots too quickly--and cypress does not rot in 50 years. Wrong =
idea ! It doesn't rot, but it retains way too much water.
Incidentally, I did NOT plant any of these when they were received =
in February, but waited until they showed root growth budding. I kept =
them in paper bags and misted them once a day with the light on. Some =
are still not yet planted. Adam in Glenview,IL USDA 5a
----- Original Message -----
From: Russell Coker
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: what's growing
Hey.
As Bonaventure noted, its not really safe to say "they grow so =
well so far down south" just yet. Right now peonies and fuchsias would =
look great here too! I know I'm pushing the envelope on a number of =
these I'm trying for a second time. Unless they set seed, they'll be =
dormant (hopefully not dead) by July, maybe sooner. I'm hoping a =
radically different soil mix is going to help in that department. And =
as Tony mentioned, planting at the base of trees makes perfect sense. =
The only Arisaemas I have in the ground now are my ringens and the are =
planted at the base of a huge sago "tree". It acts like a big umbrella =
limiting the water that falls on them and its root system adsorbs the =
moisture in the ground.
So here's my plan. I'll fertilize them with miracle gro and =
occasionally drench with subdue. I'm also gonna give them a booster =
shot of "messenger" as Ray recommended. As foliage withers I'll begin =
to let the soil dry, but not too quickly as I noticed healthy roots even ==
after the foliage was gone last year. Last year I set the pots on the =
ground against a wall in deep shade where they stayed cool and away from ==
my daily watering, but he soil was too heavy and stayed too damp. I'll =
do the same this year with the new soil mix and keep a closer watch on =
them.
Below is a list of what I'm growing - or attempting to grow. =
ringens, wattii, iyoanum ssp. nakaianum, engleri, ternatipartitum, ==
costatum, kiushianum, saxatile, thunbergii ssp. urashima, flavum, =
candidissimum (various colors), rhizomatum, fimbriatum, victoriae, =
barnsii, aff. grapsospadix, griffithii, concinnum, consanguineum, =
tortuosum, intermedium, speciosum, elephas var. handelii, ciliatum, =
franchetianum/fargesii, a couple of unidentified tropicals and a few =
other mysteries from Chen Yi.
I'm open to any advice or thoughts anyone may have.
Russell
Mobile, AL 8b
----- Original Message -----
From: Bonaventure Magrys
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: what's growing
Wow, they grow so well so far down south. Obviously many Ari's =
most of us grow are nearly subtropical, or subtropical-temperate, ie. on ==
mountaitops with cold but mild winters and temperate summers. Which =
leads me to my next question - They're doing fine now, but how do they =
hold up to your oppressive summer heat and humidity?
Bonaventure
BTW seeds in! Yippeeee. All worries over (or at least one =
bright thing going on in my life right now). I needed a little bit of =
Christmas once again.
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<DIV>Paul. Since they have hail in China, I expect so.</DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jalgraha at YAHOO.COM =
href="mailto:jalgraha at YAHOO.COM">Janelle Denny</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
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href="mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL">ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL</A>==
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 14, 2006 =
7:00
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Hail Storm</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>A hail storm came through today and shredded up lots of my=
arisaema's. Will the tubers be OK next year ?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks</DIV>
<DIV>Paul Denny<BR><BR><B><I>Adam Fikso <<A
=
href="mailto:irisman at AMERITECH.NET">irisman at AMERITECH.NET</A>></I>=</=
B>
wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV>I'm not sure about these things other than that drainage is the ==
key to
most of the problems people have. I also make sure that they =
have
enough calcium or limestone chips (sieved to take out the dust) ==
available. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I lost only one tuber from Chen Yi this year out of about 25, =
(growing
indoors under lights because they were breaking dormancy) , but it =
was
definitely because the medium was too wet. I thought that =
using
cypress mulch would help solve the problems associated with pine =
mulch which
rots too quickly--and cypress does not rot in 50 years. Wrong =
idea
! It doesn't rot, but it retains way too much =
water.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Incidentally, I did NOT plant any of these when they were =
received in
February, but waited until they showed root growth budding. I =
kept
them in paper bags and misted them once a day with the light =
on. Some
are still not yet planted. Adam in Glenview,IL USDA 5a</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=cokerra at BELLSOUTH.NET =
href="mailto:cokerra at BELLSOUTH.NET">Russell
Coker</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
=
href="mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL">ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 14, =
2006 10:36
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: what's =
growing</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Hey.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>As Bonaventure noted, its not really safe to say "they grow =
so well
so far down south" just yet. Right now peonies and
fuchsias would look great here too! I know I'm pushing =
the
envelope on a number of these I'm trying for a second time. =
Unless
they set seed, they'll be dormant (hopefully not dead) by =
July, maybe
sooner. I'm hoping a radically different soil mix is going =
to help
in that department. And as Tony mentioned, planting at the =
base of
trees makes perfect sense. The only Arisaemas I have in the =
ground
now are my ringens and the are planted at the base of a huge =
sago
"tree". It acts like a big umbrella limiting the water that =
falls on
them and its root system adsorbs the moisture in the ground. ==
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>So here's my plan. I'll fertilize them with miracle gro ==
and
occasionally drench with subdue. I'm also gonna give them a =
booster
shot of "messenger" as Ray recommended. As foliage =
withers I'll
begin to let the soil dry, but not too quickly as I noticed =
healthy roots
even after the foliage was gone last year. Last year I set =
the pots
on the ground against a wall in deep shade where they stayed cool =
and away
from my daily watering, but he soil was too heavy and stayed too=
damp. I'll do the same this year with the new soil mix and =
keep
a closer watch on them. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Below is a list of what I'm growing - or attempting to=
grow. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>ringens, wattii, iyoanum ssp. nakaianum, engleri, =
ternatipartitum,
costatum, kiushianum, saxatile, thunbergii ssp. urashima, =
flavum,
candidissimum (various colors), rhizomatum, fimbriatum, victoriae, ==
barnsii, aff. grapsospadix, griffithii, concinnum, consanguineum,=
tortuosum, intermedium, speciosum, elephas var. handelii, =
ciliatum,
franchetianum/fargesii, a couple of unidentified =
tropicals and a few
other mysteries from Chen Yi.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I'm open to any advice or thoughts anyone may have.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Russell</DIV>
<DIV>Mobile, AL 8b <BR></DIV>
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</DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=bonaventure at OPTONLINE.NET
href="mailto:bonaventure at OPTONLINE.NET">Bonaventure Magrys</A=> =
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
=
href="mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL">ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 14, ==
2006 9:21
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: what's =
growing</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV><B></B>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Wow, they grow so well so far down south. Obviously ==
many
Ari's most of us grow are nearly subtropical, or =
subtropical-temperate,
ie. on mountaitops with cold but mild winters and temperate =
summers.
Which leads me to my next question - They're doing fine now, but ==
how do
they hold up to your oppressive summer heat and =
humidity?</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Bonaventure</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>BTW seeds in! Yippeeee. All worries over (or =
at least
one bright thing going on in my life right now). I needed a =
little bit
of Christmas once again.</STRONG></DIV>
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