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From: Janelle Denny <jalgraha at YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Hail Storm
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A hail storm came through today and shredded up lots of my arisaema's. W=ill the tubers be OK next year ?
Thanks
Paul Denny
Adam Fikso <irisman at AMERITECH.NET> wrote:
I'm not sure about these things other than that drainage is the=key to most of the problems people have. I also make sure that they hav=e enough calcium or limestone chips (sieved to take out the dust) availab=le.
I lost only one tuber from Chen Yi this year out of about 25, (growing =indoors under lights because they were breaking dormancy) , but it was de=finitely because the medium was too wet. I thought that using cypress mu=lch would help solve the problems associated with pine mulch which rots t=oo quickly--and cypress does not rot in 50 years. Wrong idea ! It does=n't rot, but it retains way too much water.
Incidentally, I did NOT plant any of these when they were received in F=ebruary, but waited until they showed root growth budding. I kept them i=n paper bags and misted them once a day with the light on. Some are stil=l not yet planted. Adam in Glenview,IL USDA 5a
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From: Russell Coker
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: what's growing
Hey.
As Bonaventure noted, its not really safe to say "they grow so well so =far down south" just yet. Right now peonies and fuchsias would look grea=t here too! I know I'm pushing the envelope on a number of these I'm try=ing for a second time. Unless they set seed, they'll be dormant (hopeful=ly not dead) by July, maybe sooner. I'm hoping a radically different soi=l mix is going to help in that department. And as Tony mentioned, planti=ng at the base of trees makes perfect sense. The only Arisaemas I have i=n the ground now are my ringens and the are planted at the base of a huge=sago "tree". It acts like a big umbrella limiting the water that falls =on them and its root system adsorbs the moisture in the ground.
So here's my plan. I'll fertilize them with miracle gro and occasional=ly drench with subdue. I'm also gonna give them a booster shot of "messe=nger" as Ray recommended. As foliage withers I'll begin to let the soil =dry, but not too quickly as I noticed healthy roots even after the foliag=e was gone last year. Last year I set the pots on the ground against a w=all in deep shade where they stayed cool and away from my daily watering,=but he soil was too heavy and stayed too damp. I'll do the same this ye=ar with the new soil mix and keep a closer watch on them.
Below is a list of what I'm growing - or attempting to grow.
ringens, wattii, iyoanum ssp. nakaianum, engleri, ternatipartitum, cost=atum, kiushianum, saxatile, thunbergii ssp. urashima, flavum, candidissim=um (various colors), rhizomatum, fimbriatum, victoriae, barnsii, aff. gra=psospadix, griffithii, concinnum, consanguineum, tortuosum, intermedium, =speciosum, elephas var. handelii, ciliatum, franchetianum/fargesii, a cou=ple of unidentified tropicals and a few other mysteries from Chen Yi.
I'm open to any advice or thoughts anyone may have.
Russell
Mobile, AL 8b
----- Original Message -----
From: Bonaventure Magrys
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: what's growing
Wow, they grow so well so far down south. Obviously many Ari's most of =us grow are nearly subtropical, or subtropical-temperate, ie. on mountait=ops with cold but mild winters and temperate summers. Which leads me to m=y next question - They're doing fine now, but how do they hold up to your=oppressive summer heat and humidity?
Bonaventure
BTW seeds in! Yippeeee. All worries over (or at least one bright thing=going on in my life right now). I needed a little bit of Christmas once =again.
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<div>A hail storm came through today and shredded up lots of my aris=aema's. Will the tubers be OK next year ?</div> <div> </=div> <div>Thanks</div> <div>Paul Denny<BR><BR><B><I>Adam Fikso <iris=man at AMERITECH.NET></I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq st=yle="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px soli=d"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2873" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></=STYLE> <DIV>I'm not sure about these things other than that drainage i=s the key to most of the problems people have. I also make sure tha=t they have enough calcium or limestone chips (sieved to take out th=e dust) available. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I lost only one tuber =from Chen Yi this year out of about 25, (growing indoors under lights bec=ause they were breaking dormancy) , but it was definitely because the med=ium was too wet. I thought that using cypress mulch would help solv=e the problems associated with pine mulch which
rots too quickly--and cypress does not rot in 50 years. Wrong idea=! It doesn't rot, but it retains way too much water.</DIV> =<DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Incidentally, I did NOT plant any of these when t=hey were received in February, but waited until they showed root growth b=udding. I kept them in paper bags and misted them once a day with t=he light on. Some are still not yet planted. Adam in Glenview=,IL USDA 5a</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>  =; </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> =<DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- <=/DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5=px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">=<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"=><B>From:</B> <A title=cokerra at BELLSOUTH.NET href="mailto:cokerra at BEL=LSOUTH.NET">Russell Coker</A> </DIV> <DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.=NL href="mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL">ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL</A=> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 14, 06 10:36 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: =what's growing</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Hey.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>=<DIV>As Bonaventure noted, its not really safe to say "they grow so wel=l so far down south" just yet. Right now peonies and fuchsias =would look great here too! I know I'm pushing the envelope on a num=ber of these I'm trying for a second time. Unless they set seed, th=ey'll be dormant (hopefully not dead) by July, maybe sooner. I='m hoping a radically different soil mix is going to help in that departm=ent. And as Tony mentioned, planting at the base of trees makes per=fect sense. The only Arisaemas I have in the ground now are my=ringens and the are planted at the base of a
huge sago "tree". It acts like a big umbrella limiting the water t=hat falls on them and its root system adsorbs the moisture in the ground.= </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So here's my plan. I'll fert=ilize them with miracle gro and occasionally drench with subdue. I'=m also gonna give them a booster shot of "messenger" as Ray recommen=ded. As foliage withers I'll begin to let the soil dry, but not too=quickly as I noticed healthy roots even after the foliage was gone last =year. Last year I set the pots on the ground against a wall in deep=shade where they stayed cool and away from my daily watering, but he soi=l was too heavy and stayed too damp. I'll do the same this year wit=h the new soil mix and keep a closer watch on them. </DIV>=<DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Below is a list of what I'm growing - or a=ttempting to grow. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>=<DIV>ringens, wattii, iyoanum ssp.
nakaianum, engleri, ternatipartitum, costatum, kiushianum, saxatile=, thunbergii ssp. urashima, flavum, candidissimum (various colors), rhizo=matum, fimbriatum, victoriae, barnsii, aff. grapsospadix, griffithii, con=cinnum, consanguineum, tortuosum, intermedium, speciosum, elephas var. ha=ndelii, ciliatum, franchetianum/fargesii, a couple of unidentified tropic=als and a few other mysteries from Chen Yi.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>=<DIV>I'm open to any advice or thoughts anyone may have.</DIV> <DIV>&n=bsp;</DIV> <DIV>Russell</DIV> <DIV>Mobile, AL 8b <BR></DIV> =<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MA=RGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV=style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV sty=le="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:<=/B> <A title=bonaventure at OPTONLINE.NET href="mailto:bonaventure at OPTON=LINE.NET">Bonaventure Magrys</A> </DIV> <DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.=NL href="mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL">ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL</A=> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 14, 06 9:21 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: w=hat's growing</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <div></div><B></B> <div></div> <d=iv></div> <div><STRONG>Wow, they grow so well so far down south. Obvious=ly many Ari's most of us grow are nearly subtropical, or subtropical-temp=erate, ie. on mountaitops with cold but mild winters and temperate summer=s. Which leads me to my next question - They're doing fine now, but how d=o they hold up to your oppressive summer heat and humidity?</STRONG></div=> <div><STRONG>Bonaventure</STRONG></div> <div> </div> <div><STRO=NG>BTW seeds in! Yippeeee. All worries over (or at least one bright=thing going on in my life right now). I needed a little bit of Christmas=once again.</STRONG></div>
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