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From: aaron floden <aaron_floden at YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Seeds
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Hello,

Yes, but the institutions that send specimens back
and forth tend to take precautions in
sending/receiving "botanical specimens" or herbarium
specimens, therefore they assume that these are safe.
They must also assume that the paperwork is there, and
if it were a CITES "protected" (as they call it)
species it would be clearly marked on the outside of
the box. It is much easier for them to take an
individual gardeners seeds or plants and destroy them
and never worry about any possible repercussions.
After all, "they" are the government, and we are just
the little ants.

Are CITES protected plants, if they enter without
documentation, forwarded onto an institution that buys
into that way of "conservation" (really just control
and arrogance) so only they can keep it and limit the
availablity and propagation of a rare plant? Or are
they stupidly destroyed in a stupid attempt at
conservation? Fanatic gardeners are the BEST way to
get plants around and save them from permanent
extinction. Yes, protect the habitat, but also get the
plant into cultivation. Are there any plants that have
been extirpated due to a gardener collecting them? I
have yet to read any papers on extinction caused by a
collector/gardener. But I have read many papers the
past 6 or 7 months that bring up the building of dams
in the southeast US, and likely elsewhere, that have
killed most of a population of a rare plant. Many of
these dams were only built from the 1950's with one of
the latest being the Jocasse dam built by Duke Power
that nearly wiped out most of the Shortia populations.
Also the Tallulah Gorge dam that most likely flooded
out the rest of the Trillium persistens population.
And on and on... Asarum speciosum, Silene polypetala,
...

Aaron Floden
KS Z5



--- "carlobal at netzero.net" <carlobal at NETZERO.NET>
wrote:

> You're just lucky Aaron. Were I a regulator, the
> first boxes I'd grab to inspect would be those
> labelled "botanical specimens" regardless of what
> was inside. How much more obvious could it be that
> something plant related is inside? You really think
> that putting that label on it is getting it through?
> Regulations like CITES also govern the movement of
> plant parts and derivatives--which include herbarium
> specimens.
>
>
> Carlo A. Balistrieri  (carlob at ridgewoodpower.com)
> The Gardens at Turtle Point
> 79 Turtle Point Road
> Tuxedo Park, NY 10987
> Zone 6  (845.351.2049)


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