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From: Russell Coker <cokerra at BELLSOUTH.NET>
Subject: destroyed seed - a thought
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I didn't order any seed, but I have a question...

In the letter to the list below, Christopher mentions that the seed are =
coming from a botanical garden.  Are these seeds actually being sent in =
envelopes with the garden's return address on them?  Seems like that =
would be the first GIANT red flag for our friends at USDA - or where =
ever the seeds are being intercepted - screaming "here I am, destroy =
me!".

Maybe I've just been lucky, but I've never had any problems receiving =
tubers, bulbs or seeds from Europe, Asia or South America.  Also, when I ==
lived in Japan I airmailed boxes of plants home, but that was easier in =
the 80's.  Then and now, all were sent in UNASSUMING boxes or envelopes. ==
I'm not advocating doing anything illegal, but isn't it easier to =
quietly fly under the radar?  And even though they always contain the =
right paperwork and I have the permits from the USDA, in two years not =
one of the boxes from Chen Yi has ever been opened and inspected.  Go =
figure. 

Anyway, it works for me.

Russell
in lovely Mobile, AL
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Christopher Gussman 
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL 
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 6:33 PM
Subject: Another one destroyed


Unfortunately my envelope also arrived without seed and with the Mail =
Interception Notice.  Although the law may have been put in place for =
good reason, it is frustrating in these instances.  Arisaema seed are =
large and distinctive, would be easy to realize there was no harmful =
weed seeds or organisms with them.  Add to the fact that they were sent =
from a botanical garden, not an individual.  It is ashame to know that =
good seed that people took the time to clean and donate, and Eric took =
the time to distribute, were destroyed.   I wish the rest of you better =
luck!


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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>I didn't order any seed,==
but I have a 
question...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>In the letter to the lis=t =
below, 
Christopher mentions that the seed are coming from a botanical =
garden.&nbsp; Are 
these seeds actually being sent in envelopes with the garden's return =
address on 
them?&nbsp; Seems like that would be the first GIANT red flag for our =
friends at 
USDA - or where ever the seeds are being intercepted - screaming "here I ==
am, 
destroy me!".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Maybe I've just been luc=ky, =
but I've 
never had any problems receiving tubers, bulbs or seeds from Europe, 
Asia&nbsp;or South America.&nbsp; Also, when I lived in Japan I =
airmailed boxes 
of plants home, but that was easier in the 80's.&nbsp; Then and now, all ==
were 
sent in&nbsp;UNASSUMING boxes or envelopes.&nbsp; I'm not advocating =
doing 
anything illegal, but isn't it easier to quietly fly under the =
radar?&nbsp; And 
even though&nbsp;they always contain the right paperwork and I have the =
permits 
from the USDA, in two years not one of the boxes from Chen Yi has ever =
been 
opened and inspected.&nbsp; Go figure.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Anyway, it works for =
me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Russell</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>in lovely Mobile, =
AL</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV 
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black"><B>From:</B> 
<A title=OlgaChrisEmily at MSN.COM 
href="mailto:OlgaChrisEmily at MSN.COM">Christopher Gussman</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL 
=
href="mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL">ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL</A>==
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 06, 2006==
6:33 
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Another one =
destroyed</DIV>
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<DIV>Unfortunately my envelope also arrived without seed and with the =
Mail 
Interception Notice.&nbsp; Although the law may have been put in place ==
for 
good reason, it is frustrating in these instances.&nbsp; Arisaema seed ==
are 
large and distinctive, would be easy to realize there was no harmful =
weed 
seeds or organisms with them.&nbsp; Add to the fact that they were =
sent from a 
botanical garden, not an individual.&nbsp; It is ashame to know that =
good seed 
that people took the time to clean and donate, and Eric took the time =
to 
distribute, were destroyed.&nbsp;&nbsp; I wish the rest of you better= 
luck!<BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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