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Petra Schmidt is right and I am foolishly wrong: I wonder why I suddenly
thought that the Flora of North America treatment of Aristolochiaceae was=n't
out yet. But that is boring.

Shaking my head, hoping that the moths fly out, I still think that the
papers of Lawrence Kelly are stimulating, and would be interested to hear
from anyone who agrees or disagrees.

The Flora of North America and Flora of China treatments, if overlaid, wo=uld
be out of register.

A book that discussed taxonomical considerations and, regardless, offered
myriad photographs of all parts of every putative taxon, would be a
treasure. It is this sort of thing, I imagine, that Barry was hoping to
write.

Paige Woodward
paige at hillkeep.ca
www.hillkeep.ca
----- Original Message -----
From: "Petra Schmidt" <petra at PLANTDELIGHTS.COM>
To: <ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: Asarum references


> Check the homepage of Flora of China project (www.fna.org/china/)
> family Aristolochiaceae, genus Asarum, lots of info there.
> Also check the Fora of North America, Vol.3, family Aristolochiaceae,
> already published, for info on natives.
>
> Now - regarding arisaema, I saw a wonderful A. hainanense at MO recentl=y,
> not yet in bloom, but a nice healthy potted plant of it, collected in V=iet
> Nam (no, MO doesn't have extras).  Here at PDN, we have had great succe=ss
> with overwintering A. balansae (also from Viet Nam), now 3 years in the
> ground.  A. cordatum, on the other hand, is not hardy but we have a nic=e
> specimen just emerging inside the greenhouse...a sure sign that our spr=ing
> has arrived.
> Petra
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pacific Rim" <paige at HILLKEEP.CA>
> To: <ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL>
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 8:20 PM
> Subject: Asarum references, was gnat pollinators
>
>
> > About references for Asarum and its kin:
> >
> > 1. There is, or was, a Japanese book about Asarum s.l. offered on
Barry's
> > Asiatica website. Periodically I attempt to order it but get no respo=nse
> > (though I have had replies about other things).  Is the book still
> available
> > and if so will you ship it to Canada, Barry?
> >
> > 2. What about the papers by Lawrence Kelly, formerly of Cornell
University
> > and now of the New York Botanical Garden? He has been working on the
> > treatment of Asarum/Hexastylis for the Flora of North America, I
believe.
> I
> > am no botanist but based on his several published papers he appears t=o
be
> > familiar not only with the physical traits, large and small, of the
> various
> > possible taxa but also with the problems and traps of cladistics.
> Comments,
> > anyone?
> >
> > Paige Woodward
> > paige at hillkeep.ca
> > www.hillkeep.ca
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Barry Yinger" <asiatica at NNI.COM>
> > To: <ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL>
> > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: gnat pollinators was: What is the name of this plant?
> >
> >
> > Dear Jim,
> >
> > There really isn't anything.  Unfortunately, with my manuscript, fiel=d
> > notes, slides, and library gone, I don't know if I have the energy to
> > start over on the project.  But it should be done, and I don't know
> > anyone else to do it.
> >
> > Barry
> >
> > On Apr 2, 2004, at 3:47 PM, Jim McClements, Dover, DE z6 wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >  In a message dated 4/1/04 6:10:14 PM, asiatica at NNI.COM writes:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Various species are more or less discriminating about their
> > >  pollinator(s). The plants in subgenera Asarum and Asiasarum are
> > >  generally less discriminating, and those in subgenera Heterotropa
> > >  (Japan and China) and Hexastylis (America and maybe China) are mor=e
> > >  specific. Chinese and Japanese species in subgenus Heterotropa rar=ely
> > >  spontaneously set seed in cultivation.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Barry
> > >
> > >  Is there anything approaching a comprehensive key/description/book=on
> > > the whole Asarum genus? I know that you were working on the idea a =few
> > > years ago.
> > >
> > >  If nothing in one place, what would you recommend as a group of
> > > resources, particularly the Chinese species that Chen Yi sells and =the
> > > NA species?
> > >
> > >  Jim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Jim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Jim McClements
> > >  50 S. Prestwick Ct, Dover, Delaware, 19904, USA, Zone 7a
>
>