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From: "J.E. Shields" <jshields104 at INSIGHTBB.COM>
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Adam "Irisman" et al.,

The ISHS (International Society for Horticultural Sciences) has overall
responsibility for registration of names of cultivated plant
varieties.  They have a web site,


where you can see who is responsible for each genus.  This might be an ar=ea
where a responsible society could step in, if they have a concerned,
conscientious individual to perform the duties.  It appears that the ICRA
for genus Arisaema belongs to the INTERNATIONAL AROID SOCIETY (IAS) URL
=  or e-mail to <selbyhort at>

There is a detailed book of rules for how these names are to be made, the
"International Code for Nomenclature of Cultivated Plants."

Any selected clone can be given a name, whether hybrid or not.  Parentage
information is optional, depending on the attitude of the ICRA
(International Cultivar Registration Authority" -- i.e., the registrar fo=r
the particular genus).

I'm no expert on this.  Kevin Walik <giboshiman at> (hostas and
daylilies) is however very very knowledgeable about the ICNCP, if you can='t
get information from IAS.

Jim Shields
in central Indiana

At 11:00 PM 3/6/02 -0600, you wrote:
>Hello All--I see that I did prompt some discussion. I am in another grou=p
>where irisman is known  --I will try to identify myself each time in thi=s
>group, but I have to learn a new set of habits, then, not too easy at my
>age,(78) where learning a new password is a trial.
>I would hope that nobody would want to pass off hybrids as species, the
>problem of identification is tough enough ,it would appear. Isn't there =a
>nomenclatural committee somewhere, (international?) that also has rules =for
>registering hybrids with known parentage ?  Or am I spoiled because of m=y
>iris associations? The species identification problem with irises is
>troubled also, even after 300 years or so of taxonomic revisions., but
>there's more published, and more , so most of us have better illusions,
>   Adam Fikso, 3620 Glenview rd., Glenview, IL USDA Zone 5a -- to -25F
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jim McClements, Dover, DE z6" <JimMcClem at AOL.COM>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:13 PM
>Subject: Re: triphyllum colors,.hybridization, intergeneric stuff, etc.
> > In a message dated 3/6/02 3:54:41 PM, irisman at AMERITECH.NET writes:
> >
> > << I also had to ask about the list because different lists have quit=e
> > different unspoken conventions for answering, or "talking" and I was
> > to find my way, being somewhat intrusive, outspoken, etc
> > >>
> >
> > Having watched this exchange, I would like to point out that most lis=ts do
> > suggest that a writer identify himself. Alpine-L, for instance, stron=gly
> > suggests/requires that one give his/her name and place of residence. =It's
> > difficult to get into the mood to respond to anonymous postings. (If =your
> > name is really irisman. you have my apologies).
> >
> > Jim McClements, Dover, Delaware, USA

Jim Shields             USDA Zone 5             Shields Gardens, Ltd.
P.O. Box 92              WWW:
Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA                   Tel. +1-317-896-3925

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