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Subject: Re: Arisaema japonicum?
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>Jim,
>
>I don't GROW this Arisaema, but many years ago when visiting the Seattle
>area, I took a picture at Grand Ridge, it was of an Arisaema that Phil a=nd
>Steve were then calling "japonicum".
>
>I have always accepted it to be A.serratum, without any special reason f=or
>this I should add.  If anyone wants to see it while the thread is still
>active, it is the picture at my web site in
>"http://rareplants.co.uk/arisaema/index.htm" where I have it as A.serrat=um.
>If this is your plant let me know, if it is wrong Guy , please also let =me
>know !

Paul,
You're right. The picture matches plants from S Japan (A. serratum var.
mayebarae) and also specimens from Korea (A. takesimense), all of them
being in the variation range of A. serratum.
Guy
>
>At 22:13 07/04/98 EDT, you wrote:
>>AEG'rs
>>
>>Several years ago while visiting the Seattle area for a NARGS meeting, =I g=
ot
>>seeds from Steve Doonan (Grandrige Nursery) of what he ID'd as A. japon=icu=
m.
>>The first one has just flowered (under lights) and is quite a beauty.
>>
>>As I recall from the monograph on the Japanese species, there's a lot o=f
>>confusion between this and A. serratum, and GG lists "japonicum" as a s=yno=
nym
>>of serratum, but this doesn't look at all like the two forms of serratu=m t=
hat
>>I already grow (which also don't resemble each other!). The spathe is b=lac=
k
>>and white striped (well, maybe dark brown) but the pattern of the white
>>stripes is exactly like the rising sun that used to be painted on Zeros=. (=
I
>>guess I'm dating myself!).  The spadix is very dark also, slightly spec=kle=
d,
>>and has a bulbous tip.
>>
>>I'll probably end up sending a slide to Guy for ID, but does anyone gro=w o=
ne
>>that sounds like this?
>>
>>Jim McClements
>>
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