[Trillium-l] Trillium erectum x flexipes
jimmcclem at gmail.com
Mon May 16 22:56:21 CEST 2011
The subject of Trillium hybrids, particularly in the "erectum complex",
should certainly include consideration of what I often refer to as the
"Susquehanna Trillium", found by the thousands in spectacular hillside
masses at Shenk's Ferry PA, but also on both sides of the Susquehanna River
in the same general location. Most trillium addicts in my area (Pa, NJ, and
Del) are quite familiar with these.
The best guess (by Dick Lighty, formerly at Mt.Cuba Gardens) about these is
that they probably represent a relict hybrid between white T. erectum and T.
flexipes. They are 99.99% white petalled, but with ovary color ranging from
white (like flexipes) to black (like erectum), and some variation in shape.
Aside from ovary color the plants are pretty much uniform. I have quite a
few of these in my garden (grown from seed), where they are quite vigorous
and show the same ovarian variations as the wild population.
Could this be the source of the "erectum/flexipes hybrid" that started this
thread of discussion?
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Lis Allison <garden at pine-ridge.ca> wrote:
> On May 16, 2011, The Grahams wrote:
> > I am curious as to what you see as color forms if any beyond the red,
> > white, and yellow "pure" forms. I am wondering if what "others"
> > consider to be "hybrids" because they are pink or picotee or such
> > might be natural diversity?
> Definitely we have pinks, all shades, and some that could be called
> 'picotee'. I photographed one just last Friday. It was cream, maybe a
> touch of yellow, with a dark red edge and red vein lines.
> > Just as another point of curiosity, what about variation in flower
> > size? If you mentioned flower size, I missed that.
> Lots of variation, but it is hard to know how much is due to the plant's
> maturity. Young plants have much smaller flowers than older ones. Also, I
> have a few plants in my garden with fairly wide, rounded petals. Most are
> pointed and strap-shaped, but not all. Similar to T. grandiflorum in that.
> One T. grandiflorum flower this Spring is a full 6" across. The T. erectum
> flowers are smaller, up to 4" across.
> > Very intriguing to learn that you have a LOT of diversity in what
> > "should be" only erectum.
> Funny, I always thought of T. erectum as being the one that had a lot of
> variation! The T. grandiflorums here don't seem to vary much - if you
> ignore size - but the Reds sure do.
> Elisabeth Allison
> Pine Ridge Studio
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> Lis Allison
> Pine Ridge Studio
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