<div dir="ltr"><div>Hello everyone, my name it's Néstor Groel and I'm living in Patagonia Argentina.<br><br>First of all I apologize to everyone for not participating. As soon as I started in this group I had an accident and my youngest son died. That winter, between sorrow and pain, I neglected my greenhouse and the cold destroyed a large part of my plant collection. Orchids, carnivorous, aquatic, ferns and of course my young arisaemas. None of them were important at that time. Last years I was retired from groups and other activities. By the time I started to get slightly out of the deepest well of my life, the pandemic arrived and here we are.</div><div><br></div><div>I am old enough to have seen and used all types of groups on the internet. I prefer these types of groups by email (perhaps simple nostalgia?) but I recognize that they are dying. <br><br>I don't like Facebook, I hardly ever log in, but it's true that it works for a lot of people. I am in several WhatsApp and Telegram groups that work very well if there are less than one hundred members or so. <br><br>WEB forums are also very useful, I use them daily for fishkeeping, microscopy and electronics. We can join perfectly to an existing one (that any of you recommend) since we will surely not be a burden for them.<br><br>But if you prefer, I can create a web forum and a web page specifically for us, for the group, with a place for photos, announcements or whatever you want. I have no problem, if you give me a few days, I will do it. The site <a href="https://sadelplata.org">https://sadelplata.org</a> was created a lot of years ago, and will be updated in next months with new articles and activities, but it can work as a sample. A website specific with species taxonomy treatment and general information, with photos and all articles on web pages have automatically created their corresponding PDF version. It has a web forum attached for members or the general public. Using something pre-existing is faster and simpler, but if you prefer to have our own site we can build it together, you would provide the information and I'll convert it to the web's format.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I'm new to arisaema but not for other plants. I can't help with seeds or knowledge about arisaema, but can contribute with a web site. <br></div><div><br></div><div>I want to contribute to something to avoid this group extinction. I would like to thank you for the effort you have made for years, tell me how I can help. I will collaborate in whatever is needed.<br>Thanks to all, sorry for my bad english.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><br>Néstor D. Groel<br>Lórien Sistemas</div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El mié, 6 abr 2022 a las 14:22, Peter Taggart via Arisaema-L (<<a href="mailto:arisaema-l@lists.science.uu.nl">arisaema-l@lists.science.uu.nl</a>>) escribió:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Dear Eric, Christopher, and other AEG members.</div><div dir="auto">I have been unable to keep up with plant interests over the past few years, and am nominally a member of many plant groups on Facebook. I have not taken part in them for several years and will not start again, because of the blatant censorship of covid information, and vaccine harms that has been carried out on Facebook, and other platforms. They also perform a great deal of nudging of various other agendas, basically good for governments and large multinational companies, but very destructive to society. <div dir="auto">One forum which I used to frequent, and hope to do so again, is the Scottish Rock Garden Club Forum, which has sections and threads on many plant groups. It is searchable, and indexed. I am sure that the AEG could create a niche in a corner of that forum, with the Scottish Rock Garden Club's blessings.</div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=cfca3d48040d5a23ef4883aca506034d&action=forum" target="_blank">https://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=cfca3d48040d5a23ef4883aca506034d&action=forum</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=18367.msg419261#msg419261" target="_blank">https://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=18367.msg419261#msg419261</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div>I am now rescuing the remains of my bulb collection, after 10 years of neglect, and plan to expand it including the growing of more aroids.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best wishes</div><div dir="auto">Peter.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 6 Apr 2022, 12:45 Christopher Gussman via Arisaema-L, <<a href="mailto:arisaema-l@lists.science.uu.nl" target="_blank">arisaema-l@lists.science.uu.nl</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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A Facebook group may be the way to go, as photos can be easily included with questions and discussions. There is already one Arisaema Facebook group I bet many members here are already a part of. In some ways I miss the old forums and list serves but I think
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<p>Dear AEG members,</p>
<p>It seems that the only activity left in our group is the Seed Exchange, which is maybe because of the use of our old fashioned email discussion list. From the Archives we can learn that there are little or no discussions beside the SeedEx messages. We have
our own FloraPix Gallery that can be used to post pictures, but also discuss plants. It is really a pity that it has not been used much over the last years.</p>
<p>My question is, should we switch to for example Facebook with our group to activate and modernize our group? Or are we becoming a fossil group? Unfortunately Ray Stilwell became too old and left the group in 2007, he was the motor of the group and was not
replaced. I was involved in 1997 or maybe even before and created the email list and started organizing the website and SeedEx, which I run for over 20 years now.</p>
<p>If we want to continue the group, I think we need somebody like Ray who keeps the group enthusiastic and going (live discussions etc.). I could be involved for the website, seed list and gallery if needed, but will be not much longer in current position
at the Botanic Garden (1.5 year max, have reached the age of 65 some time ago).</p>
<p>It is up to you, lets start discuss our future now, before it is too late.</p>
<p>All the best,</p>
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