[Arisaema-l] A. griffithii culture

aaron floden aaron_floden at yahoo.com
Mon Jan 6 02:43:38 CET 2014 

Of all the Himalayan species I have tried to grow the only one that has survived and flowered has been A. concinnum. I have killed speciosum, griffithii, costatum, intermedium, jacquemontii, and even an undescribed one from the top of a mountain in Vietnam. These all occur at too high of elevations with cool day and cool night temperatures during the growing period to be grown successfully for long periods in the Southeastern US. There are of course exceptions and areas around Asheville might be most amenable to these species. I find even some of high elevations Hengduan material difficult as well. Surprisingly the "consanguineum" from Vietnam seem content so far, but do not follow seasons when grown in pots.

 Aaron in E Tennessee where nights can be cool in the summer, but hot during the day.





On Sunday, January 5, 2014 8:25 PM, Charles Hunter <2csh at bellsouth.net> wrote:
 
That is enough for me not to try it again
in the Atlanta 
area. There are a lot of Arisaemas that grow well in the southeastern USA ,
so I don't want to waste time with ones that don't like it here.
 
Nice to have some discussion on the
Arisaema-L, which needs more posts !!
 
Charles Hunter
Smyrna, Georgia USA z7
 

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[mailto:arisaema-l-bounces at science.uu.nl] On
Behalf Of awootten
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014
7:12 PM
To: arisaema-l at science.uu.nl
Subject: Re: [Arisaema-l] A.
griffithii culture
 
I note Tony Avents comment at Plant Delights:

A. griffithii occurs in open forests to 12,000' in elevation, and for this
reason, resents summer heat and summer moisture...plant at the base of a large
tree or shrub for best results. - See more at: http://www.plantdelights.com/index/page/add_to_wish_list/product_id/1108/quantity/1#sthash.craXCXEV.dpuf

They currently don't have it...maybe for this reason (they are near Raleigh ).

Clear skies,
Al

On 1/5/14 2:25 PM, Paul H Schneider wrote: 
David, hate to jump in late like this but Michigan
Bulb Co. has one of the worst reputations of any mail order company in the US . Google them
& read the reviews..terrible!!
> 
>On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:00 AM, DAVID LEEDY <djleedy at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
>I just noticed that A. griffithii is offered at $9
(a 50% discount) until January 6th by Michigan Bulb Company.  So here goes
another $9!!!
> 
>David J. Leedy
>3151 Cortez Drive
>Fort Worth, TX   76116
> 
>Telephone:  (817) 560-2997
>Email:  djleedy at sbcglobal.net
> 
>USDA Hardiness Zone 8 (Avg. Annual Min. Temp. of 10 to 20˚ F. or
-12 to -7˚ C.)
>AHS Heat Zone 9 (temperature above 86˚ F. or 30˚ C. 100 to
150 days/year)
>Mean Elevation is 670 ft. or 204 meters above sea level.
>Average annual precipitation is 34.73 inches or 0.882 meters.  
> 
>From:Kevin Luff <kevinluff5092 at hotmail.com>
>To: Arisaema Enthusiast Group (AEG) Discussion List (and other hardy Aroids
<arisaema-l at science.uu.nl> 
>Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2014
2:03 PM
>Subject: Re: [Arisaema-l] A.
griffithii culture
> 
>Hi we have the best
climate in the world down here in NZ we get everything sun rain wind so what
could be better
>From: donfenton at hotmail.com
>To: arisaema-l at science.uu.nl
>Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 19:27:51 +1030
>Subject: Re: [Arisaema-l] A. griffithii culture
>                                                    
Hello all!
>                                                                   
Sunny New Zealand ?
I was not aware that you got sun so far south in the Antarctic
 ocean !!!!!
>   All the best,
>Don.
> 
>Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014
09:09:09 +1300
>From: kevinluff5092 at hotmail.com
>To: arisaema-l at science.uu.nl
>Subject: Re: [Arisaema-l] A. griffithii culture
>Yes the plants have been grown in pots and in the
garden in wet part of nz and this form has done really well. They have not been
dried out in winter just left in ground. Have done well for over 15 year's in
garden. The plant was collected in a very remote part of India near the
Burmese border. I've posted another photo for your comment. The importers had
kept plants for many years to themselves before releasing them. They lived in a
area climate wise is very simular to where I live but are much wetter
especially in winter.I was wondering if its a habitat form that is more
amenable to culture. Our summer day temperature are 20 to 25degrees Celsius on
average and nights are 12-16 degrees Celsius on average. I will be trying to
get seed and if successful Will send to society seedbank. Cheers Kevin from
sunny New Zealand . 
> 
> 
>Sent from my phone on the
smartphonetwork.
>
>
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>-------- Original message --------
>From: "Mellard, David (ATSDR/DCHI/EB)" <dam7 at cdc.gov> 
>Date: 01/01/2014 8:05 AM (GMT+12:00) 
>To: "' Arisaema Enthusiast Group 
(AEG) Discussion List (and other hardy Aroids'" <arisaema-l at science.uu.nl> 
>Subject: Re: [Arisaema-l] A. griffithii culture 
>
>
>>I posted some photos
of a arisaema which one person has replied saying it might be griffithii and
this clone does really well in our very mild wet winters. Low temperatures
below 0 degrees C are rare here. Night temperature between 5 and 10 degrees
Celsius are the normal in winter here
> 
>Please tell us more…..outdoors
during the winter?  In pots?  In the ground?   You’re
a Kiwi?  Well, that explains it.  I consider my Kiwi friends to be
the luckiest people in the world and most can make a dead stick grow. 
Your temperatures sound similar to Atlanta ,
although we get a little colder (20 F) but the ground doesn’t freeze much
below a few inches.  >>From the little I know of griffithii, it grows in
the Himalayas , so I imagine it has a cold, dry
winter and probably doesn’t like hot summers.
> 
>David
>Atlanta
> 
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