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From: Erick Adams <rogthegoat at HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Hybrids
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> Surely
> all species should most readily cross with others of the same species==2C
> otherwise there would be no such thing as a species=2C all plants wou=ld b=
e
> hybrids. Is it possible that all of the plants you tried to cross were =th=
e
> same genetic clones=2C i.e. divisions of the same plant. Many plants =reco=
gnise
> their own pollen=2C and reject it=2C requiring pollen from the same=speci=
es=2C but
> a genetically distinct individual. If however=2C your plants are all =seed
> grown=2C and therefore genetically different=2C i am at a loss to e=xplain=
why
> they will not cross with the same species.
> 
> Thanks again everyone.
> 
> Chris

There's all kinds of reasons the crosses don't take between the same spec=ie=
s. 

Most of it is probably myfailure as a matchmaker. As you mention=2C try=ing =
to cross

between clones of the same plant is likely to produce abortive results in=m=
any cases.

Sometimes the only available male is an offset of the same corm that's th=e =
useable female.

I try to avoid it=2C but I have'nt taken to storing pollen as of yet.

Most of the failure can probably be attributed to weather=2C age & rece=ptiv=
ity of the

female inflorescence vs. how much pollen I actually have=2C when I have=it =
and what

methodology is used to get them friendly. This is only the second year I'=ve=
taken a

hand at breeding. I've had a lot of fun and I expect I'll have more as I =re=
fine my methods. 

Once I perfect mind control over fungus gnats it will be smooth sailing ==3B=
)

enjoy=2C

Erick

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species=2C all plants would be<BR>&gt=3B hybrids. Is it possible tha=t all =
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pollen=2C and reject it=2C requiring pollen from the same species==2C but<B=
R>&gt=3B a genetically distinct individual. If however=2C your plants=are a=
ll seed<BR>&gt=3B grown=2C and therefore genetically different=2C i=am at a=
loss to explain why<BR>&gt=3B they will not cross with the same specie=s.<B=
R>&gt=3B <BR>&gt=3B Thanks again everyone.<BR>&gt=3B <BR>&gt=3B C=hris<BR><B=
R>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
There's all kinds of reasons the crosses&nbsp=3Bdon't take between the =same=
species. <BR>
Most of it is probably myfailure as a matchmaker. As you mention=2C try=ing =
to cross<BR>
between clones of the same plant is likely to produce abortive results in=m=
any cases.<BR>
Sometimes the only available male is an offset of the same corm that's th=e =
useable female.<BR>
I try to avoid it=2C but I have'nt taken to storing pollen as of yet.<B=R>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
Most of&nbsp=3Bthe failure&nbsp=3Bcan probably be attributed to weath=er=2C =
age &amp=3B receptivity of the<BR>
female inflorescence vs. how much pollen I actually have=2C when I have=it =
and what<BR>
methodology is used to get them friendly. This is only the second year I'=ve=
taken a<BR>
hand at breeding. I've had a lot of fun and I expect I'll have more as I =re=
fine my methods. <BR>
Once I perfect mind control over fungus gnats it will be smooth sailing ==3B=
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&nbsp=3B<BR>
enjoy=2C<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
Erick<BR>
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