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If you have black walnuts they are toxic to many plants.  
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Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: Hardiness List - was New member


That' s correct I live in north Italy between zone 7 and 8 but here =
the Himalayan plants (I don't have arisaemas long enough to say..) do =
much better then the Japanese... We have very short winters with =
sometimes lot of snow but also dry periods and very warm days in the =
middle of winter...One question.... I noticed that my plants (most wild =
orchids and a couple of aroids) do grow better under certain trees and =
won't grow at all under others, does anybody know if there are some type ==
of trees that arisaemas like speciosum and galeatum can't stand?

Mary
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From: Erick Adams 
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL 
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:38 PM
Subject: Hardiness List - was New member


 
A discussion about what people grow where & how sounds good, but a =
simple list 
of average minimum temperature tolerances doesn't begin to cover all ==
the permutations involved. 
 
An example would be the species from the Himalayas.  Several of them ==
are technically winter hardy
for USDA zones 5 or 6, but I find them harder to grow outdoors than =
equally cold tolerant Japanese species.  
The difference: I have dry summers & wet winters with little or no =
snow cover, basically the opposite
conditions the Himalayan species enjoy.
 
About 15 years ago I bought a Trochodendron aralioides seedling.  =
The common Hardiness rating at the time was zone 8.  
It's still alive and happy here in zone 6A and now I believe it's =
listed as zone 5.  A few years back we had about three 
years where I could overwinter typically zone 7 plants outdoors =
without any additional contrivances.  Then things went
back to normal and they all croaked.  So I don't put too much stock =
in the USDA zones. 
 
-erick 
 


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3>If you have black walnuts they are =
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B> 
<A title=info at CANDTPROJECTS.COM =
href="mailto:info at CANDTPROJECTS.COM">C&amp;T 
projects</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL 
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href="mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL">ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL</A>==
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 13, 2009 =
4:19 
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Hardiness List - ==
was New 
member</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>That' s correct I live in north Italy between==
zone 7 and 
8 but here the Himalayan plants (I don't have arisaemas long enough to ==
say..) 
do much better then the Japanese... We have very short winters with =
sometimes 
lot of snow but also dry periods and very warm days in the middle of= 
winter...One question.... I noticed that my plants (most wild orchids =
and a 
couple of aroids) do grow better under certain trees and won't grow at ==
all 
under others, does anybody know if there are some type of trees that =
arisaemas 
like speciosum&nbsp;and galeatum can't stand?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Mary</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B> 
<A title=rogthegoat at HOTMAIL.COM =
href="mailto:rogthegoat at HOTMAIL.COM">Erick 
Adams</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL 
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href="mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL">ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL</A>==
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 13, 2009==
9:38 
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Hardiness List - wa=s =
New 
member</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>&nbsp;<BR>A discussion about what people grow where =
&amp; how 
sounds good, but a simple list <BR>of&nbsp;average minimum =
temperature 
tolerances&nbsp;doesn't begin to cover all the&nbsp;permutations =
involved. 
<BR>&nbsp;<BR>An example would be the species from the 
Himalayas.&nbsp;&nbsp;Several of them are technically winter =
hardy<BR>for 
USDA zones&nbsp;5 or 6, but&nbsp;I find them harder to grow outdoors ==
than 
equally cold tolerant Japanese species.&nbsp; <BR>The difference: I =
have dry 
summers &amp; wet winters with little or no snow cover, basically =
the 
opposite<BR>conditions the Himalayan species =
enjoy.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>About 15 
years ago I bought a Trochodendron aralioides seedling.&nbsp; The =
common 
Hardiness rating at the time was zone 8.&nbsp; <BR>It's still alive =
and 
happy here in zone 6A and now I believe it's listed as zone 5.&nbsp; ==
A few 
years back&nbsp;we had about three <BR>years where I =
could&nbsp;overwinter 
typically zone 7 plants outdoors without any additional =
contrivances.&nbsp; 
Then things went<BR>back to normal and they all croaked.&nbsp; So I =
don't 
put too much stock in the USDA zones. 
<BR>&nbsp;<BR>-erick&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR><BR>
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