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That' s correct I live in north Italy between zone 7 and 8 but here the =
Himalayan plants (I don't have arisaemas long enough to say..) do much =
better then the Japanese... We have very short winters with sometimes =
lot of snow but also dry periods and very warm days in the middle of =
winter...One question.... I noticed that my plants (most wild orchids =
and a couple of aroids) do grow better under certain trees and won't =
grow at all under others, does anybody know if there are some type of =
trees that arisaemas like speciosum and galeatum can't stand?
Mary
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From: Erick Adams
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Subject: Hardiness List - was New member
A discussion about what people grow where & how sounds good, but a =
simple list
of average minimum temperature tolerances doesn't begin to cover all =
the permutations involved.
An example would be the species from the Himalayas. Several of them =
are technically winter hardy
for USDA zones 5 or 6, but I find them harder to grow outdoors than =
equally cold tolerant Japanese species.
The difference: I have dry summers & wet winters with little or no =
snow cover, basically the opposite
conditions the Himalayan species enjoy.
About 15 years ago I bought a Trochodendron aralioides seedling. The =
common Hardiness rating at the time was zone 8.
It's still alive and happy here in zone 6A and now I believe it's =
listed as zone 5. A few years back we had about three
years where I could overwinter typically zone 7 plants outdoors =
without any additional contrivances. Then things went
back to normal and they all croaked. So I don't put too much stock in ==
the USDA zones.
-erick
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>That' s correct I live in north Italy between =
zone 7 and 8
but here the Himalayan plants (I don't have arisaemas long enough to =
say..) do
much better then the Japanese... We have very short winters with =
sometimes lot
of snow but also dry periods and very warm days in the middle of =
winter...One
question.... I noticed that my plants (most wild orchids and a couple of ==
aroids)
do grow better under certain trees and won't grow at all under others, =
does
anybody know if there are some type of trees that arisaemas like
speciosum and galeatum can't stand?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Mary</FONT></DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=rogthegoat at HOTMAIL.COM =
href="mailto:rogthegoat at HOTMAIL.COM">Erick
Adams</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 13, 2009 =
9:38
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Hardiness List - was ==
New
member</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV> <BR>A discussion about what people grow where =
& how
sounds good, but a simple list <BR>of average minimum temperature ==
tolerances doesn't begin to cover all the permutations =
involved.
<BR> <BR>An example would be the species from the
Himalayas. Several of them are technically winter =
hardy<BR>for USDA
zones 5 or 6, but I find them harder to grow outdoors than =
equally
cold tolerant Japanese species. <BR>The difference: I have dry =
summers
& wet winters with little or no snow cover, basically the
opposite<BR>conditions the Himalayan species enjoy.<BR> <BR>About ==
15
years ago I bought a Trochodendron aralioides seedling. The =
common
Hardiness rating at the time was zone 8. <BR>It's still alive =
and happy
here in zone 6A and now I believe it's listed as zone 5. A few =
years
back we had about three <BR>years where I could overwinter =
typically
zone 7 plants outdoors without any additional contrivances. Then ==
things
went<BR>back to normal and they all croaked. So I don't put too =
much
stock in the USDA zones. <BR> <BR>-erick <BR> <BR><BR>
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