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David,
It's not a question of the validity of the A. dracontium name. It's a
recognized species.
Rather a question of the seed donor plant being properly identified. Trud=y
isn't completely confident of her identification. But A. dracontium is
easily recognized; so I'll bet she has it right.
Ray
At 1/7/2009, you wrote:
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>The Scottish Rock Garden Club seedx lists Arisaema dracontium and this n=ame=
> has been accepted by the seed managers. I see that I took this seed la=st y=
>ear.
>David Shaw
>
>
>
>Date: Wed=2C 7 Jan 2009 10:46:01 -0600From: QTL2002LD at MSN.COMSubject: =Re: S=
>eedEx 2009To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
>
>
>
>Hi Eric. I saw your message this morning and looked at the seedlist. I=th=
>ought I had sent you some arisaema dracontum seed=2C but I was really =busy =
>this fall and maybe I just thought I did. There's another thing--I've n=eve=
>r had anyone other than myself identify it as draconitum=2C and maybe =you d=
>ecided not to use them for that reason. I don't mind you not using them==2C=
> assuming that I actually sent them=2C but (and this is selfish) I wa=s hopi=
>ng to be a donor. Please let me know if you received them. Thanks.
>T. Campbell
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Eric Gouda
>To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
>Sent: Wednesday=2C January 07=2C 2009 10:16 AM
>Subject: SeedEx 2009
>Please load me with cleaned seeds. Also if you have only small amounts o=f r=
>are species=2C please donate!We went over 50 numbers today=2C some v=ery int=
>eresting ones. You can see what we already have (none can be selected ye=t)=
>=2C do not order yet=2C you get a note about ordering in March. Dono=rs have=
> first choice.Best regards=2CEricOur address:University Botanic Garde=nsAEG =
>SeedEx 2009 P.O.Box 80.162 NL-3508 TD Utrecht The Netherlands--
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>The Scottish Rock Garden Club seedx lists Arisaema dracontium and = th=is
>name has been accepted by the seed managers. I see that I took this se==ed
>last year.
>David Shaw
>
>
>
>----------
>
>Date: Wed=2C 7 Jan 2009 10:46:01 -0600
>From: QTL2002LD at MSN.COM
>Subjec= t: Re: SeedEx 2009
>To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
>
>
>Hi Eric. =3B I saw your message this morning and looked at the see= =dlist.
>=3B I thought I had sent you some arisaema dracontum seed=2C but= =I was
>really busy this fall and maybe I just thought I did. =3B There'= s
>another thing--I've never had anyone other than myself identify it as dr=a=
>conitum=2C and maybe you decided not to use them for that reason. =3=B I=
>don't mind you not using them=2C assuming that I actually sent them==2C
>but= (and this is selfish) I was hoping to be a donor. =3B Please le=t me
>kn= ow if you received them. =3B Thanks.
>T. Campbell
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <3d.htm>Eric Gouda
>To: <3d.htm>ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNE= T.NL
>Sent: Wednesday=2C January 07=2C 200= 9 10:16 AM
>Subject: SeedEx 2009
>
>Please load me with cleaned seeds. Also i= f you have only small amoun=ts
>of rare species=2C please donate!
>We went = over 50 numbers today=2C some very interesting ones. You c=an see
>what we al= ready have (none can be selected yet)=2C do not order ye=t=2C
>you get a note= about ordering in March. Donors have first choice.
>
>Best regards=2C<= BR>Eric
>
>Our address:
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>AEG See= dEx 2009
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<font size=3>David, <br><br>
It's not a question of the validity of the A. dracontium name. It's a
recognized species.<br><br>
Rather a question of the seed donor plant being properly identified.
Trudy isn't completely confident of her identification. But A. dracontium
is easily recognized; so I'll bet she has it right.<br><br>
Ray<br><br>
At 1/7/2009, you wrote:<br>
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<br>
The Scottish Rock Garden Club seedx lists Arisaema dracontium and this
name=<br>
has been accepted by the seed managers. I see that I took this seed
last y=<br>
ear.<br>
David Shaw<br><br>
<br><br>
Date: Wed=2C 7 Jan 2009 10:46:01 -0600From: QTL2002LD at MSN.COMSubject: R=e:
S=<br>
eedEx 2009To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL<br><br>
<br><br>
Hi Eric. I saw your message this morning and looked at the
seedlist. I th=<br>
ought I had sent you some arisaema dracontum seed=2C but I was really
busy =<br>
this fall and maybe I just thought I did. There's another
thing--I've neve=<br>
r had anyone other than myself identify it as draconitum=2C and maybe y=ou
d=<br>
ecided not to use them for that reason. I don't mind you not using
them=2C=<br>
assuming that I actually sent them=2C but (and this is selfish) I
was hopi=<br>
ng to be a donor. Please let me know if you received them.
Thanks.<br>
T. Campbell<br><br>
----- Original Message ----- <br>
From: Eric Gouda <br>
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL <br>
Sent: Wednesday=2C January 07=2C 2009 10:16 AM<br>
Subject: SeedEx 2009<br>
Please load me with cleaned seeds. Also if you have only small amounts of
r=<br>
are species=2C please donate!We went over 50 numbers today=2C some ve=ry
int=<br>
eresting ones. You can see what we already have (none can be selected
yet)=<br>
=2C do not order yet=2C you get a note about ordering in March. Donor=s
have=<br>
first choice.Best regards=2CEricOur address:University Botanic
GardensAEG =<br>
SeedEx 2009 P.O.Box 80.162 NL-3508 TD Utrecht The Netherlands-- <br>
My email address has been changed to:<br>
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The Scottish Rock Garden Club seedx lists <i>Arisaema dracontium </i>and
= this name has been accepted by the seed managers. I see that I took
this se= ed last year.<br>
David Shaw<br><br>
<br>
<hr>
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Date: Wed=2C 7 Jan 2009 10:46:01 -0600<br>
From: QTL2002LD at MSN.COM<br>
Subjec= t: Re: SeedEx 2009<br>
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL<br><br>
<br>
Hi Eric. =3B I saw your message this morning and looked at the see=
dlist. =3B I thought I had sent you some arisaema dracontum seed=2C b=ut=
I was really busy this fall and maybe I just thought I did. =3B There'==s
another thing--I've never had anyone other than myself identify it as
dra= conitum=2C and maybe you decided not to use them for that reason.
=3B I= don't mind you not using them=2C assuming that I actually se=nt
them=2C but= (and this is selfish) I was hoping to be a donor. =3B =Please
let me kn= ow if you received them. =3B Thanks.<br>
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<dd>----- Original Message ----- <br>
<dd>From:</b> <a href="3d.htm">Eric Gouda</a> <br>
<dd>To:</b> <a href="3d.htm">ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNE= T.NL</a> <br>
<dd>Sent:</b> Wednesday=2C January 07=2C 200= 9 10:16 AM<br>
<dd>Subject:</b> SeedEx 2009<br><br>
<dd>Please load me with cleaned seeds. Also i= f you have only small
amounts of rare species=2C please donate!<br>
<dd>We went = over 50 numbers today=2C some very interesting ones. Yo=u
can see what we al= ready have (none can be selected yet)=2C do not o=rder
yet=2C you get a note= about ordering in March. Donors have first
choice.<br><br>
<dd>Best regards=2C<= BR>Eric<br><br>
<dd>Our address:<br>
<dd>University Botanic Gardens<br>
<dd>AEG See= dEx 2009 <br>
<dd>P.O.Box 80.162 <br>
<dd>NL-3508 TD Utrecht <br>
<dd>The Netherlands<br>
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