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From: Bonaventure Magrys <bonaventure at OPTONLINE.NET>
Subject: Re: First Jacks of the year here
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Well there is no heterophyllum yet. I planted a ringens right next to it,=almost on top of it, just to mark the spot early in the year. These relo=cated ringens offsets have bloomed now, but mysteriously, the untouched m=oster mother tuber has not shown yet! Now blooming too - angustatum, engl=erii, kishidae.
Also missing - all my sikokianums!!!
Bonaventure

----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher Gussman
Date: Tuesday, May 1, 2007 9:18 pm
Subject: Re: First Jacks of the year here
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL

> A. amurense has now come up, along with a bunch of miscellaneous
> triphyllums. The first A lobatum may have died, but the pale
> form of lobatum is coming up strong. I hope to finally get
> seeds of this (and maybe consanguineum and candidissimum too).
> Thus far, I have only gotten seeds on triphyllums and amurense.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bonaventure Magrys
> To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL> L at NIC.SURFNET.NL>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:43 PM
> Subject: Re: First Jacks of the year here
>
>
> Yep, no amurense here either, strange. Ringens first, of
> course, urashima, and the vigorous triphyllum 'Holmdel Giant'
> are up. At a local park I counted only 2 triphyllum shoots so
> far in an area that will have over a hundred blooming plants. In
> a the adjacent Deep Cut Gardens, sikokianum is blooming, but, i
> think mine are not coming up. One heterophyllum is sprouting,
> and a "disappeared" onoticum has put up 2 little leaves this year!
> Bonaventure, about 30 miles south of Chris
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Christopher Gussman
> Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 8:48 pm
> Subject: Re: First Jacks of the year here
> To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
>
> > We had a delayed Spring in NJ, but the last couple days have
> > been warm. There is a lobatum near the south side of the
> house,
> > that has always come up early. It was up about a week and a
> > half ago on cue. Two years ago a wet Spring rotted most of
> it,
> > but a small leaf came up last year, and 2 slightly bigger
> small
> > leaves came up this year, one of which was damaged by frost.
> > GRRR. I thought my pale lobatum, in another area, may have
> > rotted midsummer, but it is also sending up a strong shoot
> now.
> > Not much else up yet, net even A. amurense.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Steve Hatfield
> > To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL> L at NIC.SURFNET.NL>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 8:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: First Jacks of the year here
> >
> >
> > Mine are up and a couple blooming here in central indiana.
> > Steve
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Arisaema Enthusiast Group (AEG) Discussion List (and
> > other hardy
> > Aroids) [mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL] On Behalf Of
> > Giorgio Pozzi
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:34 AM
> > To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
> > Subject: Re: First Jacks of the year here
> >
> > Il giorno 24/apr/07, alle ore 14:24, George Forsythe ha scritto:
> >
> > > Found my first A. triphyllum of this spring yesterday. Two
> > little
> > > guys about 5" (12 cm) tall, with the spath fully expanded,
> > but the
> > > leaves just starting out. Both were pale green with only a
> > trace
> > > of maroon on the inside of the spath limb, and were
> probably
> >
> > > stoloniferous babies of the same plant as they were only
> > about 3"
> > > apart. For some reason this seems a very common
> propagation
> > method
> > > in the clones around here. Both were male flowers, (I
> > unzipped
> > > their jeans to check).
> > >
> >
> > Hello George,
> >
> > Here too Triphyllum have flowered, either green, as green
> > outside
> > and purple inside, they are still young and I didn't see the
> sex... >
> > is it enough to open the spathes?
> >
> > What about the seeds and tuberlets? any news?
> >
> > best whishes,
> >
> > Giorgio
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
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> > Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.5.10/774 - Release
> > Date: 4/23/2007
> > 5:26 PM
> >
> >
> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
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> > Date: 4/23/2007
> > 5:26 PM
> >
> >
>

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=3CDIV=3EWell there is no heterophyllum yet=2E I planted a ringens =right=
next to it=2C almost on top of it=2C just to mark the spot early in =the=
year=2E These relocated ringens offsets have bloomed now=2C but myst=eri=
ously=2C the untouched moster mother tuber has not shown yet! Now bloom=i=
ng too - angustatum=2C englerii=2C kishidae=2E=3C/DIV=3E
=3CDIV=3EAlso missing - all my sikokianums!!!=3C/DIV=3E
=3CDIV=3EBonaventure=3CBR=3E=3CBR=3E----- Original Message --=---=3CBR=3E=
From=3A Christopher Gussman =3COLGACHRISEMILY=40MSN=2ECOM=3E==3CBR=3EDate=
=3A Tuesday=2C May 1=2C 2007 9=3A18 pm=3CBR=3ESubject=3A Re==3A First Jac=
ks of the year here=3CBR=3ETo=3A ARISAEMA-L=40NIC=2ESURFNET=2=ENL=3CBR=3E=
=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B A=2E amurense has now come up=2C along with =a bunch of =
miscellaneous =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B triphyllums=2E The first A lobat=um may ha=
ve died=2C but the pale =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B form of lobatum is com=ing up st=
rong=2E I hope to finally get =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B seeds of this (a=nd maybe =
consanguineum and candidissimum too)=2E =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B Thus f=ar=2C I h=
ave only gotten seeds on triphyllums and amurense=2E =3CBR=3E=26g=t=3B --=
--- Original Message ----- =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B From=3A Bonaventure=Magrys=3C=
mailto=3Abonaventure=40OPTONLINE=2ENET=3E =3CBR=3E=26gt=3=B To=3A ARISAEM=
A-L=40NIC=2ESURFNET=2ENL=3Cmailto=3AARISAEMA-=3CBR=3E=26g=t=3B L=40NIC=2E=
SURFNET=2ENL=26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B Sent=3A Wednesday==2C April 25=2C 2=
007 9=3A43 PM=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B Subject=3A Re=3A First Jacks =of the year h=
ere=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt==3B Yep=2C no amurense=
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urashima=2C and the vigorous triphyllum =27Holmdel Giant=27 =3CB=R=3E=26=
gt=3B are up=2E At a local park I counted only 2 triphyllum shoots so==3C=
BR=3E=26gt=3B far in an area that will have over a hundred blooming=plan=
ts=2E In =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B a the adjacent Deep Cut Gardens=2C =sikokianum =
is blooming=2C but=2C i =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B think mine are not c=oming up=2E=
One heterophyllum is sprouting=2C =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B and a =22=disappeared=
=22 onoticum has put up 2 little leaves this year!=3CBR=3E=26gt==3B Bonav=
enture=2C about 30 miles south of Chris=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =3CBR==3E=26gt=3B=
----- Original Message -----=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B From=3A Christoph=er Gussma=
n =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B Date=3A Tuesday=2C April 24=2C 2007 8==3A48 pm=3CBR=3E=
=26gt=3B Subject=3A Re=3A First Jacks of the year here=3CBR=3=E=26gt=3B T=
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lways come up early=2E It was up about a week and a =3CBR=3E=26gt==3B =26=
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=3E=26gt=3B it=2C =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B but a sma=ll leaf came up las=
t year=2C and 2 slightly bigger =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B small =3CBR==3E=26gt=3B =
=26gt=3B leaves came up this year=2C one of which was damaged by fr=ost=2E=
=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B GRRR=2E I thought my pale lobatu=m=2C in anoth=
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=3B =26gt=3B Not much else up yet=2C net even A=2E amurense=2=E =3CBR=3E=26=
gt=3B =26gt=3B ----- Original Message ----- =3CBR=3E=26gt=3=B =26gt=3B Fr=
om=3A Steve Hatfield =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B To=3A ARIS=AEMA-L=40NIC=2E=
SURFNET=2ENL=26gt=3B L=40NIC=2ESURFNET=2ENL=26gt=3B =3C=BR=3E=26gt=3B =26=
gt=3B Sent=3A Tuesday=2C April 24=2C 2007 8=3A40 PM=3CBR=3E==26gt=3B =26g=
t=3B Subject=3A Re=3A First Jacks of the year here=3CBR=3E=26=gt=3B =26gt=
=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =2=6gt=3B Mine are up and =
a couple blooming here in central indiana=2E=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B ==26gt=3B St=
eve=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt==3B -----Original Mes=
sage-----=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B From=3A Arisaema Enthusi=ast Group (AE=
G) Discussion List (and =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B other hardy==3CBR=3E=26=
gt=3B =26gt=3B Aroids) =5Bmailto=3AARISAEMA-L=40NIC=2ESURFN=ET=2ENL=5D On=
Behalf Of =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B Giorgio Pozzi=3CBR=3=E=26gt=3B =26gt=
=3B Sent=3A Tuesday=2C April 24=2C 2007 10=3A34 AM=3CBR=3E==26gt=3B =26gt=
=3B To=3A ARISAEMA-L=40NIC=2ESURFNET=2ENL=3CBR=3E=26gt==3B =26gt=3B Subje=
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=26gt=3B =26gt=3B Il giorno 24/apr/07=2C alle ore 14=3A24=2=C George Fors=
ythe ha scritto=3A=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B =3CBR=3E==26gt=3B =26gt=3B =26=
gt=3B Found my first A=2E triphyllum of this spring yesterday=2E Tw=o =3C=
BR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B little =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt==3B =26gt=3B guys ab=
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=26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B Hello George=2C=3=CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26g=
t=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B Here too Triphyllum have flo=wered=2C eith=
er green=2C as green =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B outside =3=CBR=3E=26gt=3B =
=26gt=3B and purple inside=2C they are still young and I didn=27t=see th=
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=26gt=3B What about the seeds and tuberlets=3F any news=3F=3CB=R=3E=26gt=
=3B =26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B best whishes=2=C=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26=
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