hardyness

[Anne Chambers]

Nepal and Tibet? - well, generally speaking you're right but some southern
parts of both these countries are hot and humid.
Anne


----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell Coker" <cokerra at BELLSOUTH.NET>
To: <ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL>
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: hardyness


> Hi Steve.
>
> I'd love to see some hardiness info too, but from the other direction.  I
> often see plants listed as "hardy to zone 4", or whatever, but rarely are
> the southern limits listed.  Sometimes I think that "the powers that be"
> forget that we grow stuff down here too.
>
> Here's what I've done, with varying degrees of success.  If its one I like
I
> check it out in the Gusmans' book.  I still don't have the second edition,
> but it is on my list.  No, zones aren't listed in the book (at least the
> first edition), but the native ranges are.  So anything that says Nepal,
> Tibet or places like that are pretty much insured a quick death on the
Gulf
> Coast.  Common sense, right?  I look for ones from places with
> subtropicalish climates - southern Japan, China, Thailand, Vietnam, etc. -
> as well as those from LOWER elevations.  Lower elevations translate to
> warmer soils and humidity, and that is important for me.  The Gusmans
often
> describe the habitat too.  Some of the tropicals like firmbriatum grow on
> limestone.  My soil is acidic, so I planted them with old broken pieces of
> mortar.  Hopefully, this will make them happier.  By the way, I've given
up
> on pots, everything is now in the ground - for better or worse.
>
> On the Plant Delights website, Tony has the climate maps of Japan and
China.
> These are somewhat helpful, but you have to be careful.  The area I lived
> while in Japan is clearly shown as zone 8.  The first winter I was there
it
> snowed up to my knees and the koi pond froze over so solidly I could walk
> across it, and it stayed that way.  I was one unhappy - and cold - camper.
> I'm not even sure if zone 7 gets that cold, but for zone 8(b) here, we had
> only 3 dips below 30 degrees this past winter, and none last winter.  Of
all
> of the Arisaemas I could have brought home, I suppose that I was lucky to
> bring home ringens.  It is not picky, from places with a climate and
> elevation almost exactly like mine, and easy to grow.  I can't tell you
how
> happy it makes me to have at least one Arisaema that reliably grows,
blooms
> and multiplies year after year.  Hopefully, I'm on the right track with a
> few new ones and I'll have similar luck with them.
>
> Russell Coker
> Mobile, Alabama
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Hatfield" <sehatfield at INSIGHTBB.COM>
> To: <ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL>
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:46 AM
> Subject: hardyness
>
>
> > Hello all
> >
> > Is there a list of Arisaema somewhere that gives the zone or minimum
temp
> > for most of the varieties?
> >
> > Steve
> >
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