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From: Liz Smith <LizS652 at COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: New Arisaema
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Interesting.  There is peat w/ the sand and soil here.....
I got your message about your trip to Primex.  You didn't get Permati=l,
but something else....I'll call you in the morning.
Love,
Liz   XXX 000

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From: Arisaema Enthusiast Group (AEG) Discussion List (and other hardy
Aroids) [mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL] On Behalf Of Jim McClements,
Dover, DE z6
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 2:00 PM
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
Subject: Re: New Arisaema



In a message dated 6/12/07 10:32:25 AM, myorchid at COMCAST.NET writes:




recently added an A. speciosum ('Himalayan Giant' ) to my garden. It arri=ved
in good condition. The plant has already flowered and seeds are forming. =I
planted it immediately. The soil, which is a blend of peat, sand and orga=nic
material, drains quickly. When it arrived the 3 leaves were curled into a
tube shape. I expected the leaves to  continue to open and the plant to g=ain
strength throughout the remainder of the summer. Instead, the plant seems=to
be going dormant. The stem is soft and starting to fall over. I dug down =and
checked the tuber. It is firm and feels healthy. Is my assessment that th=e
plant is going dormant sound valid? Any suggestions that will help the pl=ant
to a better next spring?




I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but my experience is that when th=at
happens, the prognosis is grave! Check the tuber again in a month and it'=s
likely to have softened a bit.

I've no idea why this happens, but have wondered about the possibility of
some non-visible damage to the tuber in the shipping process that still
allows for the first year's growth to occur but then proves fatal.
Unfortunately, that's been what's happened to at least 50% of my
acquisitions from certain sources.

Jim



Jim McClements
50 S. Prestwick Ct.
Dover, Delaware 19904, USA
Zone 7a
302-734-2836



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class=000424801-13062007>Interesting.&nbsp; There is peat w/ the sand==
and soil 
here.....</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2><SPAN 
class=000424801-13062007>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I got your message about ==
your trip 
to Primex.&nbsp; You didn't get Permatil, but something else....I'll =
call you in 
the morning.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2><SPAN 
class=000424801-13062007>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Love,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2><SPAN 
class=000424801-13062007>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Liz&nbsp;&nbsp; XXX 
000</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Arisaema Enthusiast Group =
(AEG) Discussion 
List (and other hardy Aroids) [mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL] <B>On =
Behalf Of 
</B>Jim McClements, Dover, DE z6<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 12, 2007 =
2:00 
PM<BR><B>To:</B> ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: New=2=0
Arisaema<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT face=Geneva =
color=#000000 size=2 
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>In a message dated 6/12/07 10:32:25 AM, 
myorchid at COMCAST.NET writes:<BR><BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE 
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px ==
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" 
cite="" TYPE="CITE"></FONT><FONT face=Geneva color=#00000=0 =
size=2 
FAMILY="SANSSERIF">recently added an A. speciosum ('Himalayan Giant=' =
) to my 
garden. It arrived in good condition. The plant has already flowered =
and seeds 
are forming. I planted it immediately. The soil, which is a blend of =
peat, 
sand and organic material, drains quickly. When it arrived the 3 =
leaves were 
curled into a tube shape. I expected the leaves to&nbsp; continue to =
open and 
the plant to gain strength throughout the remainder of the summer. =
Instead, 
the plant seems to be going dormant. The stem is soft and starting to =
fall 
over. I dug down and checked the tuber. It is firm and feels healthy. =
Is my 
assessment that the plant is going dormant sound valid? Any =
suggestions that 
will help the plant to a better next =
spring?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT 
face=Geneva color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR><=BR>I =
hate to be the 
bearer of bad tidings, but my experience is that when that happens, the= 
prognosis is grave! Check the tuber again in a month and it's likely to =
have 
softened a bit.<BR><BR>I've no idea why this happens, but have wondered =
about 
the possibility of some non-visible damage to the tuber in the shipping =
process 
that still allows for the first year's growth to occur but then proves =
fatal. 
Unfortunately, that's been what's happened to at least 50% of my =
acquisitions 
from certain sources.<BR><BR>Jim<BR><BR><BR><BR>Jim McClements<BR>50 S.= 
Prestwick Ct.<BR>Dover, Delaware 19904, USA<BR>Zone 
7a<BR>302-734-2836<BR></FONT><FONT face=Geneva color=#000000 =
size=2 
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></FONT><BR><BR><BR>*******************************=**=
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what's free at http://www.aol.com. 
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