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The Cyclamen Society sends a single parcel of seed to one of its =
American members, who repackages the seed into individual orders and =
sends them on their merry way(s).  Since the A-list is so small it seems ==
that a similar process wouldn't be a big burden to Ms. Day or another =
volunteer.

Steve Herje, Lone Rock, Wisconsin, USA, USDA zone 3 where A. sikokianum =
is looking particularly lovely at the moment.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Molly Day 
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL 
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: Help with collecting seeds


As a recent joiner to the list, this conversation has made me wonder =
if ordering seeds from Seed-X is worth the trouble - though I'm sure the ==
resulting plants are unique and fabulous.

Just as a thought, the group could simply send someone from the U.S. =
to Europe to get the seeds and then the seeds could be mailed within the ==
US.

I would, of course, volunteer to be the courier.
Martha in Muskogee USA

"S.Cox" <snalice at DSLEXTREME.COM> wrote:
Hello All,

I was able to talk to Carolyn this afternoon about needing to send =
postage to get seeds from certain inspection centers.  The one thing in =
our conversation that I managed to somewhat grasp is that there are =
three protocols governing the process of mailing seeds that apply here =
and they are not in agreement.  I didn't quite get who all are, but US =
Postal service and PPQ were mentioned.  As it stands, at least for LA =
and San Francisco, we are required to either pick the package up, or =
have an account with UPS or any other mail service, or send postage.  =
She directed me to Bill Wilsella (sp?) her team leader, at 301-734-0755 =
and said he could explain some.  She also directed me to 'Enclosure 2', =
which did not come in my permit packet (she is now sending it to me).  =
That enclosure has directions for mailing plant quarantine materials =
under permit.  I won't understand how this relates until I can read it.  ==
I have a hard time understanding the whole process, but what I am =
getting is that this whole thing is in a mess.  And Carolyn said it's =
going to get worse.  

Susan    




Martha Stoodley
Muskogee Oklahoma
U.S. Cold hardiness zone 6b/7a


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The Cyclamen Society sends a single ==
parcel of seed 
to&nbsp;one of its&nbsp;American members, who repackages the seed into= 
individual orders and sends them on their merry way(s).&nbsp; Since the =
A-list 
is so small it seems that a similar process wouldn't be a big burden to =
Ms. Day 
or another volunteer.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steve Herje, Lone Rock, Wisconsin, U=SA, =
USDA zone 3 
where A. sikokianum is looking particularly lovely at the =
moment.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>As a recent joiner to the list, this conversation has made me =
wonder if 
ordering seeds from Seed-X is worth the trouble - though I'm sure the= 
resulting plants are unique and fabulous.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Just as a thought, the group could simply send someone from the =
U.S. to 
Europe to get the seeds and then the seeds&nbsp;could be mailed within ==
the 
US.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I would, of course, volunteer to be the courier.</DIV>
<DIV>Martha in Muskogee USA<BR><BR><B><I>"S.Cox" 
&lt;snalice at DSLEXTREME.COM&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello All,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I was able to talk to Carolyn th=is =
afternoon 
about needing to send postage to get seeds from certain inspection= 
centers.&nbsp; The one thing in our conversation that I managed to =
somewhat 
grasp is that there are three protocols governing the process of =
mailing 
seeds&nbsp;that apply here&nbsp;and they&nbsp;are not in =
agreement.&nbsp; I 
didn't quite get who all are, but US Postal service and PPQ were 
mentioned.&nbsp; As it stands, at least for LA and San Francisco, we ==
are 
required to either pick the package up, or have an account with UPS =
or any 
other mail service, or send postage.&nbsp; She directed me to Bill =
Wilsella 
(sp?) her team leader, at 301-734-0755 and said he could explain =
some.&nbsp; 
She also directed me to 'Enclosure 2', which did not come in my =
permit 
packet (she is now sending it to me).&nbsp; That enclosure has =
directions 
for mailing plant quarantine materials under permit.&nbsp; =
I&nbsp;won't 
understand how this relates until I can read it.&nbsp;&nbsp;I have a ==
hard 
time understanding the whole process, but what I am&nbsp;getting is= 
that&nbsp;this whole thing is in a mess.&nbsp;&nbsp;And Carolyn said ==
it's 
going to get worse.&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Susan&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>Martha Stoodley</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>Muskogee Oklahoma</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>U.S. Cold hardiness zone 6b/7a</FONT></DIV=>
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