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From: Molly Day <mollyday1 at YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Help with collecting seeds
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Oh, we bring home bulbs and seeds from Europe and put them right on our c=ustoms card in the plane.

Where have I been? I've been to Europe and back! Thanks for asking.
Martha in Muskogee USA

Adam Fikso <adam14113 at AMERITECH.NET> wrote:
You still have to get them into the country.  And you'd have to dec=lare them at customs.  You can't bring them in just because you want to. =If you get caught violating the rule, it could cost you jail time, AND a =fine of up to $10 K  New law-- courtesy of Homeland Security. Where have =you been?

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From: Molly Day
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: Help with collecting seeds


As a recent joiner to the list, this conversation has made me wonder if=ordering seeds from Seed-X is worth the trouble - though I'm sure the re=sulting plants are unique and fabulous.

Just as a thought, the group could simply send someone from the U.S. to=Europe to get the seeds and then the seeds could be mailed within the US.

I would, of course, volunteer to be the courier.
Martha in Muskogee USA

"S.Cox" <snalice at DSLEXTREME.COM> wrote:
Hello All,

I was able to talk to Carolyn this afternoon about needing to send post=age to get seeds from certain inspection centers.  The one thing in our c=onversation that I managed to somewhat grasp is that there are three prot=ocols governing the process of mailing seeds that apply here and they are=not in agreement.  I didn't quite get who all are, but US Postal service=and PPQ were mentioned.  As it stands, at least for LA and San Francisco=, we are required to either pick the package up, or have an account with =UPS or any other mail service, or send postage.  She directed me to Bill =Wilsella (sp?) her team leader, at 301-734-0755 and said he could explain=some.  She also directed me to 'Enclosure 2', which did not come in my p=ermit packet (she is now sending it to me).  That enclosure has direction=s for mailing plant quarantine materials under permit.  I won't understan=d how this relates until I can read it.  I have a hard time understanding=the whole process, but what I am
getting is that this whole thing is in a mess.  And Carolyn said it's go=ing to get worse.

Susan



Martha Stoodley
Muskogee Oklahoma
U.S. Cold hardiness zone 6b/7a

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<div>Oh, we bring home bulbs and seeds from Europe and put them right on =our customs card in the plane. </div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Where have=I been? I've been to Europe and back! Thanks for asking.</div>  <div>Mar=tha in Muskogee USA<BR><BR><B><I>Adam Fikso &lt;adam14113 at AMERITECH.NET&g=t;</I></B> wrote:</div>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT=: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">  <META content=="MSHTML 6.00.2900.3086" name=GENERATOR>  <DIV>You still have to get the=m into the country.&nbsp; And you'd have to declare them at customs.&nbsp=; You can't bring them in just because you want to.&nbsp;If you get caugh=t violating the rule, it could cost you jail time, AND a fine of up to $1=0 K&nbsp; New law-- courtesy of Homeland Security.&nbsp;Where have you be=en? &nbsp; </DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>n&nbsp;----- Original Message =----- </DIV>  <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px;=MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">  <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10p=t arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=mollyday1 at YAHOO.COM h=ref="mailto:mollyday1 at YAHOO.COM">Molly Day</A> </DIV>  <DIV style="FO=NT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL href="m=ailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL">ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL</A> </DIV>  <D=IV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 06, 2007 4:37 =PM</DIV>  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Help with c=ollecting seeds</DIV>  <DIV><BR></DIV>  <DIV>As a recent joiner to the li=st, this conversation has made me wonder if ordering seeds from Seed-X is=worth the trouble - though I'm sure the resulting plants are unique and =fabulous.</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>Just as a thought, the group cou=ld simply send someone from the U.S. to Europe to get the seeds and then =the seeds&nbsp;could be mailed within the US.</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <=DIV>I would, of course, volunteer to be the
courier.</DIV>  <DIV>Martha in Muskogee USA<BR><BR><B><I>"S.Cox" &lt;sna=lice at DSLEXTREME.COM&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq =style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px so=lid">  <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1593" name=GENERATOR>  <STYLE>=</STYLE>    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello All,</FONT></DIV>  <DI=V><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV><FONT face=Aria=l size=2>I was able to talk to Carolyn this afternoon about needing to =send postage to get seeds from certain inspection centers.&nbsp; The one =thing in our conversation that I managed to somewhat grasp is that there =are three protocols governing the process of mailing seeds&nbsp;that appl=y here&nbsp;and they&nbsp;are not in agreement.&nbsp; I didn't quite get =who all are, but US Postal service and PPQ were mentioned.&nbsp; As it st=ands, at least for LA and San Francisco, we are required to either pick t=he package up, or have an account with UPS or any other
mail service, or send postage.&nbsp; She directed me to Bill Wilsella (s=p?) her team leader, at 301-734-0755 and said he could explain some.&nbsp=; She also directed me to 'Enclosure 2', which did not come in my permit =packet (she is now sending it to me).&nbsp; That enclosure has directions=for mailing plant quarantine materials under permit.&nbsp; I&nbsp;won't =understand how this relates until I can read it.&nbsp;&nbsp;I have a hard=time understanding the whole process, but what I am&nbsp;getting is that=&nbsp;this whole thing is in a mess.&nbsp;&nbsp;And Carolyn said it's goi=ng to get worse.&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size==2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Susan&nbsp;&nbsp;=&nbsp; </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR>  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff=>Martha Stoodley</FONT></DIV>  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>Muskogee Oklaho=ma</FONT></DIV>  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>U.S. Cold hardiness zone 6b/7=a</FONT></DIV>  <div>  <HR SIZE=1>  Don't be flakey.
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