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From: Adam Fikso <irisman at AMERITECH.NET>
Subject: Re: prepositions ending sentences and an emendation.
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I misquoted Churchill. He is reputed to have said, "This is the kind of =
arrant pedantry  up with which I will not put."
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Adam Fikso 
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL 
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: Arisaema / Pinellia


Bonaventure.  There is no legitimate grammatical rule about not ending ==
sentences with a preposition. Churchill did it--Shakespeare did it, =
Bertrand Russell did it.  Churchill is said to have been chided by a =
speech writer, (or somebody)- for doing it and supposedly replied , =
"This is the kind of arrant nonsense up with which I will not put".  So =
there!  A grammar lesson for both you and others.  Adam



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From: "Bonaventure Magrys" <bonaventure at OPTONLINE.NET>
To: <ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL>
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: Arisaema / Pinellia


> My konjacs offset and mad run 6-12 inch stolons, and i now have them ==
"infesting" locations I don't remember planting them, may have moved =
them from, or just planted 1 wee tuber in. (Please forgive the American =
English of prepositions at the end of phrases and sentences, I just =
couldn't figure out how to rewrite it). Interestingly no seed set on any ==
of my Amorphs although I had all the blooming stink to enjoy.
> The Pinellia, Sauromatum (er, Typhonium venosum), and much less =
dangerous Arisaema triphyllum, I fanatically trace every faded bloom and ==
deadhead. 
> 
> Bo
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mellard, David (ATSDR/OA/OD)" <dam7 at CDC.GOV>
> Date: Wednesday, July 5, 2006 10:18 am
> Subject: Re: Arisaema / Pinellia
> 
>> >Your Amorphophallus mossambicencis (sent to me circa 2002 as a =
small
>> zigzaggy stolon of swynertonii) is in bloom for a second year. 
>> Stunning!I have passed many offsets along (as mossambicensis).
>> 
>> The berries on a group of Amorphophallus konjac are ripening.  I =
must
>> get to them before the blue jays do or I'll have more konjac 
>> coming up
>> in other parts of the garden.  
>> 
>> David
>> Atlanta
>> 
>
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<DIV>I misquoted Churchill. He is reputed to have said, "This is the =
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<A title=irisman at AMERITECH.NET =
href="mailto:irisman at AMERITECH.NET">Adam 
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 05, 2006==
10:47 
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Arisaema / =
Pinellia</DIV>
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<DIV>Bonaventure.&nbsp; There is no <STRONG>legitimate</STRONG> =
grammatical 
rule about not ending sentences with a preposition. Churchill did 
it--Shakespeare did it, Bertrand Russell did it.&nbsp; Churchill is =
said to 
have been chided by a speech writer, (or somebody)- for doing it and= 
supposedly replied , "<STRONG>This is the kind of arrant nonsense up =
with 
which I will not</STRONG> <STRONG>put".</STRONG>&nbsp; So there!&nbsp; ==
A 
grammar lesson for both you and others.&nbsp; Adam</DIV>
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<DIV>From: "Bonaventure Magrys" &lt;<A 
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href="mailto:bonaventure at OPTONLINE.NET">bonaventure at OPTONLINE.NET</A>=&g=
t;</DIV>
<DIV>To: &lt;<A 
=
href="mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL">ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL</A>=&g=
t;</DIV>
<DIV>Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 10:38 PM</DIV>
<DIV>Subject: Re: Arisaema / Pinellia</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>&gt; My konjacs offset and mad run 6-12 inch stolons, =
and i now 
have them "infesting" locations I don't remember planting them, may =
have moved 
them from, or just planted 1 wee tuber in. (Please forgive the =
American 
English of prepositions at the end of phrases and sentences, I just =
couldn't 
figure out how to rewrite it). Interestingly no seed set on any of my =
Amorphs 
although I had all the blooming stink to enjoy.<BR>&gt; The Pinellia,= 
Sauromatum (er, Typhonium venosum), and much less dangerous Arisaema= 
triphyllum, I fanatically trace every faded bloom and deadhead. =
<BR>&gt; 
<BR>&gt; Bo<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; =
From: 
"Mellard, David (ATSDR/OA/OD)" &lt;<A 
href="mailto:dam7 at CDC.GOV">dam7 at CDC.GOV</A>&gt;<BR>&gt; Date: =
Wednesday, July 
5, 2006 10:18 am<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: Arisaema / Pinellia<BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt;&gt; 
&gt;Your Amorphophallus mossambicencis (sent to me circa 2002 as a 
small<BR>&gt;&gt; zigzaggy stolon of swynertonii) is in bloom for a =
second 
year. <BR>&gt;&gt; Stunning!I have passed many offsets along (as 
mossambicensis).<BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; The berries on a group of=2=0
Amorphophallus konjac are ripening.&nbsp; I must<BR>&gt;&gt; get to =
them 
before the blue jays do or I'll have more konjac <BR>&gt;&gt; coming= 
up<BR>&gt;&gt; in other parts of the garden.&nbsp; <BR>&gt;&gt; =
<BR>&gt;&gt; 
David<BR>&gt;&gt; Atlanta<BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt; =
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