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From: Arno Clement <al.clement at PLANET.NL>
Subject: Re: Arisaema griffithii, Van Bourgondien
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I keep the tubers in a plastic pot filled with damp finely grinded peat
moss.
I keep the pots in my just frost free greenhouse, en covered with plastic
to prevent them from drying out .
The ideal temperature is around 2 - 8 C, most of the rot during storage i=s
caused by Fusarum and this fungus dos not grow below 10C.

I store my tropical tuber's like A. fimbriatum a few degrees warmer aroun=d
10 - 15 C. I keep these species in a plastic pot in the garage and the po=t
is also filled with damp finely grinded peat and
coved with plastic to prevent drying.

I keep all the Himalayan species wet during the growing period. In the
wild the growing period is during the monsoon and
they are constantly wet.

With best wishes,
Arno Clement

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Fikso" <irisman at AMERITECH.NET>
To: <ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Arisaema griffithii, Van Bourgondien


> Arno--How do you store them moist?  In a refrigerator on a wire rack wi=th
a
> pan of water in it, say at about 45=B0 F (5-10=B0 C)?
>
> Wrapped in moist sphagnum?.  What kind of peat moss?  How do you keep t=hem
> from drying out in the refrigerator?-- (if that's where they are)  seal=ed
in
> a plastic bag  or wrapped in a plastic ?  Is there no  problem with
> insufficient air circulation?
>
>
> Your comment about "very wet"  suggests that the way for me to go is th=e
> opposite of what I've been doing.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Louis-Xavier DELECOUR" <lxadelecour at NORDNET.FR>
> To: <ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL>
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 4:40 AM
> Subject: Re: Arisaema griffithii, Van Bourgondien
>
>
> > Is it possible to know the name of wholesale nursery which sell arisa=ema
> > in netherlands?
> > Xavier
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Arno Clement" <al.clement at PLANET.NL>
> > To: <ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 2:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: Arisaema griffithii, Van Bourgondien
> >
> >
> >>I don't know any Nursery here in Holland that grows Arisaema griffith=ii
> >>all
> >> the tubers that are sold by Dutch nursery's are imported from India.
> >>
> >> And 18 USD for one tuber is a high price, you can buy Arisaema
griffithii
> >> tuber at wholesale price for 2.3 Euro.
> >>
> >> The problem with most of the Arisaema's from India is that they are
> >> shipped
> >> the wrong way. They don't like to be dry during the dormant period. =A
few
> >> years ago I did import 100 tubers of A. griffithii, 100 A. utile, 10=0
A.
> >> nepenthoides, 100 A. costatum, 100 A. galeatum, 100 A. speciosum and
100
> >> A.
> >> concinnum directly form India. The tubers were not all for me but it
was
> >> a
> >> combined order of 5 Dutch Arisaema Enthusiasts. With some of the
species
> >> I
> >> had some bad results, and most of us had the same results.
> >> I had 30 tubers of each species and in the first year I lost 12 A.
> >> griffithii 10 A. utile 8 A. nepenthoids 1 A. costaum 28 A. galeatum =10
A.
> >> speciosum and 2 A. concinnum. This is most likely do to the bad
shipping
> >> of the tubers, I received them stored dry, and after the first year =I
> >> stored them all in damp peat moss during the dormant period. (I grow=my
> >> Arisaema's in pots).
> >> And the second growing season I lost only 1 A. griffithii and 2 A.
> >> speciosum. And last year I only lost 1 A. speciosum.
> >>
> >> If you want to tray A. griffithii don't order just one tuber but buy
> >> large
> >> amounts you will certainly loss 40 % of them in the first year.
> >>
> >> I grow my A. griffithii in plastic pots and I grow them very wet, an=d
> >> they
> >> like it that way
> >>
> >> With best wishes,
> >> Arno Clement
> >> The Netherlands
> >> zone 8
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Bonaventure Magrys" <bonaventure at OPTONLINE.NET>
> >> To: <ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL>
> >> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 7:48 PM
> >> Subject: Arisaema griffithii, again
> >>
> >>
> >>> Looks like Van Bourgondien (www.dutchbulbs.com) is offering Arisaem=a
> >> griffithii, 1 for $17.99, 2 for $34.98, 3 for $50.97.
> >>>
> >>> My question for them is, have the grown them through a full year
> >> successfully, including a full dormancy cycle, or are these imported
> >> directly from India? What can we expect of you? Eager Arisaema-L
members
> >> want to know.
> >>>
> >>> Bonaventure Magrys
> >>> Cliffwood Beach, NJ USA
> >>>
> >>> Please respond to ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL or
bonaventure at optonline.net
> >>>
> >
>