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From: Gene Bush <genebush at OTHERSIDE.COM>
Subject: Re: Arisaema griffithii
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Hello Jim,
I have an article and a couple of photos on Arisaema in The American
Gardener magazine. November/December issue of 05. All the information is
based upon my experience here in southern Indiana over the past years.Whi=le
you are one zone colder than I, I get your weather down here often enough
that I plan my garden for zone 5 hardiness.
The copy should be out there on stand as yet.
Gene E. Bush
Munchkin Nursery & Gardens, llc
www.munchkinnursery.com
genebush at munchkinnursery.com
Zone 6/5  Southern Indiana
----- Original Message -----
From: "J.E. Shields" <jshields at INDY.NET>

> I've killed several A. griffithii in the past couple years.  A few pots=in
> the cool greenhouse produced one bloom and two rotted tubers.  After
> blooming, that one also rotted away.  Two others were planted outdoors =in
> the ground, in a mass of sugar maple tree roots in my little woods.  I
> haven't yet seen any sign of them since planting them.  At this point, =I'm
> 0 out of 5 on griffithii.
>
> One A. sikokianum has come back three or four years and bloomed each ti=me,
> planted in the same little woods but on a bit of slightly higher ground=,
> near the base of a spindly Douglas Fir.  I have not had the courage to =try
> sikokianum anywhere else so far!
>
> A. candidissimum has not survived here beyond one or two winters when
> planted at the edge of my little patch of woods.  A. consanguineum is
> surviving around the edges of this woods.  A. serratum survived two
> winters in the woods, then disappeared.
>
> I'm afraid my climate here is neither mild enough nor dry enough for so=me
> of these borderline hardy Arisaema species.
>
> Jim Shields
> in central Indiana (USA)
>
> At 08:54 PM 1/5/2006 -0400, you wrote:
>>On a general note, by planting at the base of a tree, particularily a
>>conifer, Tony is helping the drainage because the tree roots will sop u=p a
>>lot of moisture. Conifers are particularily good in this case I would
>>guess because they continue to pull water in the winter. The conifer is
>>also a bit of an indicator of the soil moisture in winter; if it doesn'=t
>>die then probably there is enough moisture there for other plants excep=t
>>perhaps in the odd pocket.
>>
>>I have found numbers of non-Arisaema bulbs that will not survive here
>>(other than by accident for a year or so) except in the root zone of a
>>tree or shrub
>>
>>Leo
>>not exactly experienced with Arisaemas  but moving in that direction...
>>__________________________
>>Leo Smit
>>Mt Uniacke, Nova Scotia, Canada
>>USDA Zone 5-ish, semi-maritime
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Adam Fikso <<mailto:irisman at AMERITECH.NET>irisman at AMERITECH.NET>
>>To: <mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL>ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
>><<mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL>ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL>
>>Date: Thursday, January 05, 2006 13:25
>>Subject: Re: Arisaema griffithii
>>
>>Thanks, Tony.  The   problem I have is: what consituttes exceptionally
>>good drainage while still offering something more nutritious than coars=e
>>sand and gravel deep enough (8-10 inches--Chicago area) to protect it
>>from -20=B0 F. extremes even though we haven't had one of those since 1=985
>>...as I recall, somebody,maybe Pascal said that this was one of the
>>species that shouldn't dry out over the winter.  Striking that balance =is
>>what's hard. ...
>>Adam in Glenview
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Tony Avent" <<mailto:tony at PLANTDELIGHTS.COM>tony at PLANTDELIGHTS.C=OM>
>>To: <<mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL>ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL>
>>Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 7:04 AM
>>Subject: Re: Arisaema griffithii
>>
>> > Adam:
>> >
>> >    I assumed that we could not grow Arisaema griffithii after killin=g
>> > dozens of them over a period of years.  Not being one to easily admi=t
>> > defeat, we kept trying and now have A. griffithii growing and flower=ing
>> > for 2 straight years.  In my experience, it needs exceptionally good
>> > drainage.  We also used the technique that we use for cyclamen and
>> > plant
>> > it a the base of a tree or conifer where it will get little water in
>> > the
>> > winter months.  I hope this helps.
>> >
>> > Tony Avent
>> > Plant Delights Nursery @
>> > Juniper Level Botanic Garden
>> > 9241 Sauls Road
>> > Raleigh, North Carolina  27603  USA
>> > Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F
>> > Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F
>> > USDA Hardiness Zone 7b
>> > email <mailto:tony at plantdelights.com>tony at plantdelights.com
>> > website  <http://www.plantdelights.com>http://www.plantdelights.com
>> > phone 919 772-4794
>> > fax  919 772-4752
>> > "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at lea=st
>> three times" - Avent
>
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