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Subject: Re: what's growing
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I'm not sure about these things other than that drainage is the key to =
most of the problems people have. I also make sure that they have =
enough calcium or limestone chips (sieved to take out the dust) =
available.
I lost only one tuber from Chen Yi this year out of about 25, (growing =
indoors under lights because they were breaking dormancy) , but it was =
definitely because the medium was too wet. I thought that using cypress ==
mulch would help solve the problems associated with pine mulch which =
rots too quickly--and cypress does not rot in 50 years. Wrong idea ! =
It doesn't rot, but it retains way too much water.
Incidentally, I did NOT plant any of these when they were received in =
February, but waited until they showed root growth budding. I kept them ==
in paper bags and misted them once a day with the light on. Some are =
still not yet planted. Adam in Glenview,IL USDA 5a
----- Original Message -----
From: Russell Coker
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: what's growing
Hey.
As Bonaventure noted, its not really safe to say "they grow so well so ==
far down south" just yet. Right now peonies and fuchsias would look =
great here too! I know I'm pushing the envelope on a number of these =
I'm trying for a second time. Unless they set seed, they'll be dormant =
(hopefully not dead) by July, maybe sooner. I'm hoping a radically =
different soil mix is going to help in that department. And as Tony =
mentioned, planting at the base of trees makes perfect sense. The only =
Arisaemas I have in the ground now are my ringens and the are planted at ==
the base of a huge sago "tree". It acts like a big umbrella limiting =
the water that falls on them and its root system adsorbs the moisture in ==
the ground.
So here's my plan. I'll fertilize them with miracle gro and =
occasionally drench with subdue. I'm also gonna give them a booster =
shot of "messenger" as Ray recommended. As foliage withers I'll begin =
to let the soil dry, but not too quickly as I noticed healthy roots even ==
after the foliage was gone last year. Last year I set the pots on the =
ground against a wall in deep shade where they stayed cool and away from ==
my daily watering, but he soil was too heavy and stayed too damp. I'll =
do the same this year with the new soil mix and keep a closer watch on =
them.
Below is a list of what I'm growing - or attempting to grow.
ringens, wattii, iyoanum ssp. nakaianum, engleri, ternatipartitum, =
costatum, kiushianum, saxatile, thunbergii ssp. urashima, flavum, =
candidissimum (various colors), rhizomatum, fimbriatum, victoriae, =
barnsii, aff. grapsospadix, griffithii, concinnum, consanguineum, =
tortuosum, intermedium, speciosum, elephas var. handelii, ciliatum, =
franchetianum/fargesii, a couple of unidentified tropicals and a few =
other mysteries from Chen Yi.
I'm open to any advice or thoughts anyone may have.
Russell
Mobile, AL 8b
----- Original Message -----
From: Bonaventure Magrys
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: what's growing
Wow, they grow so well so far down south. Obviously many Ari's most =
of us grow are nearly subtropical, or subtropical-temperate, ie. on =
mountaitops with cold but mild winters and temperate summers. Which =
leads me to my next question - They're doing fine now, but how do they =
hold up to your oppressive summer heat and humidity?
Bonaventure
BTW seeds in! Yippeeee. All worries over (or at least one bright =
thing going on in my life right now). I needed a little bit of Christmas ==
once again.
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<DIV>I'm not sure about these things other than that drainage is the key ==
to most
of the problems people have. I also make sure that they have =
enough
calcium or limestone chips (sieved to take out the dust) available. ==
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I lost only one tuber from Chen Yi this year out of about 25, =
(growing
indoors under lights because they were breaking dormancy) , but it was=
definitely because the medium was too wet. I thought that using =
cypress
mulch would help solve the problems associated with pine mulch which =
rots too
quickly--and cypress does not rot in 50 years. Wrong idea ! =
It
doesn't rot, but it retains way too much water.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Incidentally, I did NOT plant any of these when they were received =
in
February, but waited until they showed root growth budding. I kept ==
them in
paper bags and misted them once a day with the light on. Some are =
still
not yet planted. Adam in Glenview,IL USDA 5a</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=cokerra at BELLSOUTH.NET =
href="mailto:cokerra at BELLSOUTH.NET">Russell
Coker</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
=
href="mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL">ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL</A>==
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 14, 2006 =
10:36
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: what's =
growing</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Hey.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>As Bonaventure noted, its not really safe to say "they grow so =
well so
far down south" just yet. Right now peonies and =
fuchsias would look
great here too! I know I'm pushing the envelope on a number of =
these I'm
trying for a second time. Unless they set seed, they'll be =
dormant
(hopefully not dead) by July, maybe sooner. I'm hoping a =
radically
different soil mix is going to help in that department. And as =
Tony
mentioned, planting at the base of trees makes perfect sense. =
The only
Arisaemas I have in the ground now are my ringens and the are =
planted at
the base of a huge sago "tree". It acts like a big umbrella =
limiting the
water that falls on them and its root system adsorbs the moisture in =
the
ground. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>So here's my plan. I'll fertilize them with miracle gro and ==
occasionally drench with subdue. I'm also gonna give them a =
booster shot
of "messenger" as Ray recommended. As foliage withers I'll =
begin to
let the soil dry, but not too quickly as I noticed healthy roots even =
after
the foliage was gone last year. Last year I set the pots on the =
ground
against a wall in deep shade where they stayed cool and away from my =
daily
watering, but he soil was too heavy and stayed too damp. I'll do ==
the
same this year with the new soil mix and keep a closer watch
on them. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Below is a list of what I'm growing - or attempting to
grow. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>ringens, wattii, iyoanum ssp. nakaianum, engleri, =
ternatipartitum,
costatum, kiushianum, saxatile, thunbergii ssp. urashima, flavum, ==
candidissimum (various colors), rhizomatum, fimbriatum, victoriae, =
barnsii,
aff. grapsospadix, griffithii, concinnum, consanguineum, tortuosum,=2=0
intermedium, speciosum, elephas var. handelii, ciliatum,
franchetianum/fargesii, a couple of unidentified tropicals and a =
few
other mysteries from Chen Yi.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I'm open to any advice or thoughts anyone may have.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Russell</DIV>
<DIV>Mobile, AL 8b <BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=bonaventure at OPTONLINE.NET
href="mailto:bonaventure at OPTONLINE.NET">Bonaventure Magrys</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
=
href="mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL">ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL</A>==
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 14, 2006==
9:21
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: what's =
growing</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<P></P><B></B>
<P></P>
<P></P>
<P><STRONG>Wow, they grow so well so far down south. Obviously many =
Ari's
most of us grow are nearly subtropical, or subtropical-temperate, =
ie. on
mountaitops with cold but mild winters and temperate summers. Which =
leads me
to my next question - They're doing fine now, but how do they hold =
up to
your oppressive summer heat and humidity?</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>Bonaventure</STRONG></P>
<P> </P>
<P><STRONG>BTW seeds in! Yippeeee. All worries over (or at =
least one
bright thing going on in my life right now). I needed a little bit =
of
Christmas once again.</STRONG></P>
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