For those who may be interested: Kelly Irvin at www.bulbmeister.com is offering some arisaemas (names doubtful or no longer valid at times) during the months of Nov-Dec. only. Don't know his source. I've asked on occasion and not gotten an answer. Nepenthoides I got from him last year was beautiful. Cheerss, Adam Fikso in Glenview, IL Zone 5a