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Subject: Re: Zantedeschia 'Black Forest' source and others
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Be careful! Last year we ordered Z. 'Black Forest' from the van Bourgondi=en
wholesale catalog. They were very shriveled when they arrived and rotten
after planting within about a week. They wouldn't send a refund, but
insisted that their policy was only to issue a credit. We made the mistak=e
of not insisting on a refund, which one has a right to do. Then, this yea=r,
they just didn't send a catalog. When we called a few days ago, they said
that the deadline for ordering from the wholesale catalog was Nov. 15th, =but
that we could order from the retail catalog!

So, caveat emptor! I think that 'Black Forest' and 'Schwarzwald' are exac=tly
the same thing.

Ernie O'Byrne
Northwest Garden Nursery
86813 Central Road
Eugene OR 97402-9284
USA
Phone: 541 935-3915
FAX: 541 935-0863
Eugene, Oregon is USDA Zone 8a on the map, but we can only grow Zone 7
plants reliably. Member of NARGS, SRGC, RHS, American Primula Society,
Meconopsis Group, Alpine-L, Arisaema-L, Hellebore Group

"Peace is not merely a distant goal that we seek, but a means by which we
arrive at that goal."
-- Martin Luther King, Jr.


-----Original Message-----
From: Arisaema Enthusiast Group (AEG) Discussion List (and other hardy
Aroids) [mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL]On Behalf Of J.E. Shields
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 6:57 PM
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
Subject: Zantedeschia 'Black Forest' source and others


Hi all,

I see that Van Bourgondien is offering Zantedeschia 'Black Forest' in the=ir
catalog this spring, cat. no. 74507 (US PP#11.001) @ $16.95 each.  So
perhaps it is not the same as 'Schwarzwald'.  Tel.
1-800-622-9997   http://www.dutchbulbs.com/

Wayside Gardens is selling Zantedeschia 'Black Pearl', cat. no. 8000, @
$9.95 each.  Tel. 1-800-845-1124 http://www.waysidegardens.com/

Van Bourgondien also have the line of "Callafornia" hybrids and several
others.

Wayside is also offering several Arisaema species:  candidissimum,
sikokianum, tortuosum, speciosium, and triphyllum.

This mention should in no way be construed as an endorsement of either Va=n
Bourgondien or Wayside Gardens by me or by anyone else!

Have fun!

Jim Shields
in central Indiana

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Jim Shields             USDA Zone 5             Shields Gardens, Ltd.
P.O. Box 92              WWW:    http://www.shieldsgardens.com/
Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA                   Tel. +1-317-896-3925
Member of INTERNATIONAL CLIVIA CO-OP