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[Adam Fikso]

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Re ploidy.  Most plants are diploid in the natural state. Tetraploid or =greater are somewhat scarcer. (There are exceptions that go from   2n =(diploid up to 12n + in their natural state and they cannot even be =guessed at until counted under a microscope.)  Unless you know =otherwise, yours are probably diploid.  Tubers are best dug when =dormant, (about now--but be careful about bruising them )-

I don't think I meant to convey the idea that all triphyllum live in =swamps, the only ones that do reliably (according to my knowldge are =ssp. stewardsonii.)  Somewhat moist but not always woodland areas. (In =this area, the woodland areas get quite dry, especially this time of =year. )

Adam





---- Original Message ----- 
From: loneroc 
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL 
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: New Member


Thanks, Adam.  I received several e-mails warning me not to write off =my triphyllum for trading material.  I'd better get out there and =collect my seeds!  When is the best time to dig roots?  I should also =find a diploid triphyllum for future hybridization.  Any ideas on where =those would be native to?  The northeast U.S. ones are supposed to be =diploid, but as you mentioned, they live in swamps.

Steve Herje, Lone Rock, WI
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Adam Fikso 
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL 
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: New Member


Steve, welcome.  I like it  that you've done more than the usual =amount of homework.   I'll trade you seed or tubers of what I have (not =always very much) for the triphyllum you have. (Do you have pictures?  ) =Not all triphyllum are necesssarily the same even though they are all =the same species. Variation is enormous.  

Type in:  Arisaema triphyllum at www.images.google  to have a look =at some  of what's out there.  
Locally here in Illinois, most  have green spathes with the forward =half of the underside (inside) being dark reddish brown.  Stems are =green and cataphylls greenish ,  marked with lavender, but there are two =main types, the other has  dark red-brown stems.  and the latter is a =more "open" plant.    They seem more tolerant of dryness than jacks from =other parts of the country.  Those I got from Ellen Hornig in Ithaca all =died,the first season, apparently from being too dry.
Adam Fikso, 3620 Glenview Rd., Glenview, IL 60025-2537 Zone 5a, but =only  2 days of zero weather the last two years.  








----- Original Message ----- 
From: loneroc 
To: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL 
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 5:17 AM
Subject: New Member


Greetings group,

I was just added to the Arisaema list, and wanted to briefly =introduce myself.  I recently purchased the Arisaema book by the
Gusmans that was (just?) published.  After reading that and =perusing the
group's archives I realized that there were a lot of species =worthy of trial
here. Hence this membership.

I garden on an acre of land that's surrounded by corn fields, sand =dunes and
cacti near the town of Lone Rock, Wisconsin USA. My nearest =neighbors live about a
half-mile (1 km.) away.  Lone Rock recorded the lowest official =temperature
ever in the state of Wisconsin, USA.  That was -53 F in 1952.  In =the seven
years that I've lived on this place the lowest temperature that we =reached
was a bit under -40 F (=-40C).  We are considered a USDA zone =three pocket,
although the highlands (some 350 feet higher =100 meters) just a =few miles
away are a zone 4 to zone 5.

My name and address are:

Steve Herje
30524 County Highway JJ
Lone Rock, WI   53556-5015
USA
Telephone: (608) 583-2343: e-mail: loneroc at mwt.net

I can't impress the group with the Arisaema species that I grow =yet. I 
have several dozen plants of triphyllum in various stages of =growth, from
the original three plants dug up in the woods near here, to their =seedlings
and their seedlings.  I have left the plants alone to fruit and =set seed and
enjoyed watching them disperse (without my help) to the opposite =side of my
yard.  I do pull up a few of the triphyllum seedlings that appear =in the
"wrong" places, however.

I grow one plant of sikokianum that has flowered for three years. =I obtained
the plant from Arrowhead Alpines.  It is planted in a bed on the =north side
of my (heated) garage, about a foot from the foundation.  I just =finished
building another bed along the length of the north side of the =house
foundation with the intention of planting various arisaemas there. =I figure
that I should test them in a sheltered area, and once I establish =them
there, I can try them in more exposed parts of the garden.

In addition to my fledgling Arisaema collection, I grow dozens of =fruit
trees, many magnolias (which I breed)and many cacti, of course.  =After all,
I am located in a desert.  Although there is only one native =species of
cactus, we have a relict desert box-turtle and two species of =rattlesnakes.
Fortunately, our ground water is unlimited, since I am only a mile =from a
large river and there is extensive underground flowage here in the =ancient
glacial flood plain.

It is unfortunate that I missed the seed distribution for this =year.  I am impatient 
to start growing other arisaemas and will have to lose a whole =year before 
can start. (I'm too poor to buy a lot of plants.  This morning I'm =going to a 
quarry to pick out 12 tons of rock to add to the garden.) I  have
triphyllum seed coming out of my ears.  I look forward to the next =
exchange, and would be happy to support the group in this =endeavor.
I wouldn't expect there to be any call for seed from plants of =triphyllum 
that are merely the usual type, so I won't collect any of mine.

Since I'll have little to contribute at first, I'll remain mostly =in the background
of the list. I read through the groups archives before joining and =copied most 
of the related to cold climate growing and winter hardiness.  That =has answered 
a lot of the questions a beginner would have.  I could forward the =
15 or so pages I found to any new arctic members who haven't yet =gleaned 
the archives.  Just write me off line.

Sincerely,

Steve Herje, Lone Rock, Wisconsin, USDA zone 3

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