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From: Christopher Gussman <OlgaChrisEmily at MSN.COM>
Subject: triphyllum colors, hybridization, etc.
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It seems some active discussion has been initiated!!  That is good.  When==
I wrote my first post, "Triphyllum colors", I was not indicating crossin==
g it with other species.  What I was saying is that this is a wonderfully==
variable species with a lot of potential.  There have been some nice sel==
ections from the wild, and I am sure many more will be found in the futur==
e.  However, there is probably a lot of potential for even more garden-wo==
rthy ornamental or interesting selections if one were interested in makin==
g some deliberate crosses among types and selecting the best offspring.  ==
We already have red stems, variegated leaves, black spathes, extra large ==
size, etc. in this one species, perhaps this and more could be combined i==
n one clone.  However, little is known even about the basic inheritance p==
attern in this common species that almost everyone has growing.  Who can ==
tell me if dark or green spathe color is dominant when the two are crosse==
d??  Do they demonstrate simple Mendelian inheritance or otherwise??  Som==
e controlled crosses would be interesting.   I am not saying any of the a==
bove is necessary, we can enjoy our triphyllums for what they are, but if==
somebody wanted to pursue this for fun......
My opinion, unsolicited, on hybrids (crossing species).   They will ==
occur, deliberate or otherwise, and may (or may not) produce some interes==
ting garden-worthy plants.  If somebody wants to try a cross, I think the==
y should by all means try but keep accurate records and do not allow the ==
offspring to spread everywhere.  It may be of interest to see which cross==
es are possible and what comes out.  If something really nice develops it==
may be worthy to distribute as a cultivar (with its origin on record) Ho==
wever, at the same time, we do not want to have muddled hybrid swarms flo==
ating around everywhere, or worst, passed off as a new or existing specie==
s.  I would not pass them off on a beginner or a local nursery when no lo==
nger wanted where they may end up mass distributed or misnamed.   The hyb==
rids could be of interest to those who produced them or others who know w==
hat they are, but at the same time we do have some sort of obligation to ==
keep the species as we know them "pure".   

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<HTML><BODY STYLE="font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>It seems som=e =
active discussion has been initiated!!&nbsp; That is good.&nbsp; When I w==
rote my first post, "Triphyllum colors", I was not indicating crossing it==
with other species.&nbsp; What I was saying is that this is a wonderfull==
y variable species with a lot of potential.&nbsp; There have been some ni==
ce selections from the wild, and I am sure many more will be found in the==
future.&nbsp; However, there is probably a lot of potential for even mor==
e garden-worthy ornamental or interesting selections if one were interest==
ed in making some deliberate crosses among types and selecting the best o==
ffspring.&nbsp; We already have red stems, variegated leaves, black spath==
es, extra large size, etc.&nbsp;in this one species, perhaps this and mor==
e could be combined in one clone.&nbsp; However, little is known even abo==
ut the basic inheritance pattern in this common species that almost every==
one has growing.&nbsp; Who can tell me if dark or green spathe color is d==
ominant when the two are crossed??&nbsp; Do they demonstrate simple Mende==
lian inheritance or otherwise??&nbsp; Some controlled crosses would be in==
teresting.&nbsp;&nbsp; I am not saying any of the above is necessary, we ==
can enjoy our triphyllums for what they are, but if somebody wanted to pu==
rsue this for fun......</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;My opini==
on, unsolicited, on hybrids (crossing species).&nbsp;&nbsp; They will occ==
ur, deliberate or otherwise, and may (or may not)&nbsp;produce some inter==
esting garden-worthy plants.&nbsp; If somebody wants to try a cross, I th==
ink they should by all means try but keep accurate records and do not all==
ow the offspring to spread everywhere.&nbsp; It may be of interest to see==
which crosses are possible and what comes out.&nbsp; If something really==
nice develops it may be worthy to distribute as a cultivar (with its ori==
gin on record) However, at the same time, we do not want to have muddled ==
hybrid swarms floating around everywhere,&nbsp;or worst, passed off as a ==
new or existing species.&nbsp; I would not pass them off on a beginner or==
a local nursery when no longer wanted where they may end up mass distrib==
uted or misnamed.&nbsp;&nbsp; The hybrids&nbsp;could be of interest to th==
ose who produced them or others who&nbsp;know what they are, but at the s==
ame time we do have some sort of obligation to keep the species as we kno==
w them "pure".&nbsp; <BR><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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