And so far, no mention whatsoever of soil composition, drainage, hours of light, although tubers AT the soil surface with leaves falling on them seems odd to me. I'll find out what mine do, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Bush" <genebush at OTHERSIDE.COM> To: <ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL> Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 8:25 AM Subject: Re: Hardy cyclamen