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From: Wilbert Hetterscheid <hetter at WORLDONLINE.NL>
Subject: Re: Arisaema thunbergii and A. urashamii
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It is all true what is said here........ It's the naughty bits that will
help you out.

Wilbert

----- Original Message -----
From: P.Bruggeman <pbruggeman at WISH.NET>
To: <ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL>
Sent: maandag 16 april 2001 23:33
Subject: Re: Arisaema thunbergii and A. urashamii


> David,
>
> Arisaema thunbergii has 3 subspecies: ssp. thunbergii & ssp. urashima f=rom
> Japan and the autumn-flowering ssp. autumnalis from Taiwan. In the trad=e
A.
> thunbergii ssp. urashima is sometimes offered as "urashima" and A.
> thunbergii ssp. thunbergii as "thunbergii". The main difference between
ssp.
> urashima and ssp. thunbergii is that the spadix-appendix inside the flo=wer
> in ssp. urashima is smooth and that of ssp. thunbergii is "wrinkled" so
you
> have to look inside the flower to see the difference. Look at the "naug=hty
> bits" and all is revealed..... (right Wilbert?)
>
> Pascal
>
>
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Arisaema Enthusiast Group (AEG) Discussion List (and other hardy
> Aroids) [mailto:ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL]Namens Mellard, David
> Verzonden: maandag 16 april 2001 17:17
> Aan: ARISAEMA-L at NIC.SURFNET.NL
> Onderwerp: Arisaema thunbergii and A. urashamii
>
>
> I have A. thunbergii and urashamii (please forgive my misspelling;  it'=s
> coming from memory) from Asiatic and saw in one of the Arisaema documen=ts
> that they are synonyms.  Is this true.  The one obvious difference is t=hat
> one flower is flush with the ground while the other is raised on a stem
> several inches.  I haven't looked more closely to floral parts to see i=f
> other differences exist.
>
> David
> Atlanta
>