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From: guy gusman <ggusman at ULB.AC.BE>
Subject: Kaichen's sp. 2
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Thanks for the information on Kaichen's sp. 2 (ex pangii). Based on 27
flowering specimens it is quite valuable. From your observations and from
Greg's comments, it seems now that any link with A.  pangii has to be
forgotten. On the contrary it is close to A. lobatum. The question is: wh=at
are the differences? We have still to see the infructescence, seedlings...

Thanks for your reply and your description of "ghostly way" of the spathe
emergence. Your plant looks like mines. It is certainly too early to
consider it synonymous with A. lobatum - I see some differences between
Kaichen's plant and A. lobatum: the presence of a long tail at the end of
the limb, the colour of the spathe, orange-green and unstriped in A.
lobatum... and many affinities such as the green tuber with the same
phyllotaxis, the two trifoliolate shiny leaves, the overall shape of the
spathe and the whitish spadix...
Something like "species nova aff. lobatum" could be used before a
definitive status can be submitted.

With regard to Kaichen's A. elephas, my specimens are quite small, about  
cm high nevertheless one bears a female inflorescence: it is thus mature.
They all have an amusing small green spot at the extremity of the limb.
On the other hand, one of my "old" specimens of A. elephas is over 1 m ta=ll
and the inflorescence is male! The smaller specimens did not flower. How
tall are yours?

Now a new question with regard to Kaichen's A. omeiense.
My tubers were already in growth when I got them and, of course, the youn=g
leaves withered and none of them emerged this spring. I'm afraid the same
happened  with most of these plants. Nevertheless, perhaps one of us has
been fortunate and has specimens in leaf? If so, how many leaflets on the
In flower? Are there male flowers only,  female flowers only or are there
bisexual spadices?


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