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Subject: Re: Arisaema fargesii
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I go with Ellen on this one.

What I see illustrated as "franchetianum" is what I grow as fargesii. The
Czechs have been propagating this for a long time.

If you have a look at MY website {well why not, everyone else is plugging
theirs :-) }
you can see pictures that are supposed to be fargesii and franchetianum.
The fargesii has been OK'd by a knowledgable member of this group, who I
won't name just in case things have changed, the franchetianum is certain=ly
different and is a slide from what I grow as franchetianum purpureogaleat=um.
(take your chances with the latter part of the name !)

In both cases these are late risers, again as Ellen says, I don't expect
much before June.  The candidissimum's here are the same, last year it wa=s
July before they came up, in what I guess is about zone 7-8 ish, suffice =to
say that we have amurense and sikokianum in full bloom outside now.
Trilliums in bud and flowering Erythronium, Anemone and Fritillaria, Croc=us
all gone for this year.

Dont want to be alarmist but a 3" shoot at this time of the year bodes ba=dly
for the plant, is it being forced at all ?

oh yes "http://rareplants.co.uk/gallaris.htm"

Paul

At 13:56 20/03/98 -0500, you wrote:
>What I am growing as A. franchetianum may be A. fargesii (our list exper=ts
>have not resolved this entirely, but I'll let them identify themselves i=f
>they so choose) - if it is, I can report that it's been hardy here in
>Oswego, NY (zone 5b, avg. lows -10F (not this year), avg snowfall 120"
>(>3m), usually consistent snowcover Dec-Feb or March).  I plant it c. 1
>foot deep. What I have, whatever it is, eventually develops very large
>tripartite leaves (the juvenile leaf is simple, and looks like a glossy
>green caladium) and has a large and extremely handsome flower: the spath=e
>is deep maroon with white striping, and dramatically flared at the
>auricles.  You can see its photo on Roy Herold's Arisaema webpage; you c=an
>see a whole patch of them among Wilbert Hetterscheid's photos on Roy's
>page.  In both cases, they're ID'd as franchetianum - or were the last
>time I looked.  I don't know whether or not this is the same as what
>Fausto is growing, but I'm betting that it is - it seems to be grown
>rather widely in Europe, having been distributed by Czech growers for so=me
>time (it's a Chinese species).
>
>Like A.candidissimum, it's a late emerger (July here).  It's also a fair=ly
>prolific producer of offsets.
>
>Ellen
>
>Ellen Hornig
>Seneca Hill Perennials
>3712 Co. Rte. 57
>Oswego, NY 13126
>
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