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From: Paul Christian <paul at RAREPLANTS.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Kaichen
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<html><div>All,</div>
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<div>I hope this post gets through.</div>
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<div>Somewhere along the line the name A.saxatile seems to have become
attached to Kaichen's species 7.&nbsp; Have I missed something ? I
thought that species 1 (one) was established as saxatile, some time
ago.&nbsp; I accept of course that it may be another sp, but Guy still
seems to stay with saxatile=species 1.&nbsp; From what we have coming=up
here I can't see any reason to change.</div>
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<div>We have a lot of species 7 here coming into flower, and it is NOT A.
saxatile, the leaves are totally and utterly wrong the spathes are
wrong.&nbsp; It may not hold for all of the batches of Kaichen's stuff
but 7 is NOT, repeat NOT saxatile.&nbsp; Can we stamp on this one before
it gets really confusing, or should I retreat tail berween legs ?</div>
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<div>I have my doubts in fact that sp7 is even an Arisaema, I think it is
Wilbert's old friend, Tymphonium.&nbsp; I am not good enough to say
which, but it looks uncommonly like the picture that we have had as ?
T.horsefeldii ? (a name like that ?)</div>
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<div>Species 5 is now in flower fully.&nbsp; The early ones were
something akin to handelii if memory serves me well, but the bulk are
A.ciliatum, or at least a very ciliate radiatisect species like ciliatum,
but unlike Kaichen's ciliatum.&nbsp; Much broader spathe tube and a short
ascending extension. Kaichen's ciliatum look exactly like Carla Teune's
CT 369 but show a greater range of variation in the abundance of ciliae
although all have the prolonged hanging extension to the spathe.</div>
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<div>I owe an apology over my statement/correction to Tony et al., that
the candidissimum were candidissimum, the early flowers were, the latest
are lovely fargesiifranchetianum. I was prompted to stick a nostril to
them, and most are rose-fragrant, just like candid.&nbsp; </div>
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<div>Species 6 is now coming into flower and looks to be unlike anything
else from Kaichen,&nbsp; well at least most of them do.&nbsp; I have a
small wager on yunnanense for this one.</div>
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Anyone have any comments on theirs versus mine ?
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